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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

Yes. But the gap for anything after QB is big. Drafting a LB before QB or CB is a complete joke.

For us? I agree. QB is the largest, most glaring need for us. That doesn't automatically make our first pick a QB. If you have a guy that you KNOW will fit your system, a guy you KNOW is YOUR GUY, and you can get him in the 2nd, why not fill another hole with another guy? I'd be all over it if that happens to be the case.

Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks

It's fascinating to me that people get paid to write and haven't realized that with the new rookie pay scale a QB is going to go #1 overall 9.5 times out of 10...and that other 0.5 times is for when an Adrian Peterson or Calvin Johnson is in the draft (which isn't available this year).

Yes, the rookie pay scale is even friendlier to RB's since you don't have to give a McFadden $40M anymore...you can get a guy at #5 and pay $16M or something totally reasonable

BUT YES...$25M is A LOT for an ILB...it is Kyle Orton for QB's. A QB is going #1 in this draft no matter what.

anyone mocking anything else is an idiot...

Despite your theory behind payscales being true, you are under the impression that because you don't have to pay them, somehow automatically makes them the #1 pick.

With that analogy, the top 10 QB's of this draft should be taken unanimously as the top 10 picks.

That is not how the draft works. You draft for what you need, what you could use, and you certainly draft guys out there that have a few question marks, but are known to be solid football players (BPA in later rounds).

Just because we need a QB doesn't dictate us using it as our #1 pick, just yet. Like I said, if Albert is gone, LT is a lock for our #1 pick.

Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

Yeah I do blame you. I blame you for first starting the argument by saying you would be fine taking Teo and now trying to say its about what you think is going to happen, not what you want to happen. You said you are cool taking Teo if thats what KC thinks is best and I fully blame you for that.

As for what Stanzi did, are you kidding me? What does the handling of the QB position by Crennel and Pioli have to do with what the next group will do. Especially when Clark made mention of the QB position.

The ILB position is not nearly as big a hole as the QB and CB position. Hell, even if Albert and Bowe are kept, DL and Safety may be more important. You can fill ILB later in the draft. Happens all the time.

I am so sick and tired of the "lock" QB. Are you seriously going to wait for th next Luck to come around. Grow some balls and take a ****ing chance. This isn't the nuclear bomb. Failing with a QB doesn't **** you for 5 years anymore. Look at what we have done being afraid of taking a QB. How is not fixing the QB position less risky? Alex Smith, Glennon ect. Those aren't bigger risks? Sorry, I do blame you and everybody that thinks the way you do.

Having read this response, I can tell that your emotion is in this. You want a QB or no draft at all. You don't care if our roster is full of undrafted free agents out of northern canada, as long as we spend our first pick on a QB.

The point I brought up with Stanzi and the then current FO/Staff, was that we got a guy our HC liked and wanted to start the year before, a guy who came from Pioli's #1 scouted college, and after 2 years, he hasn't started a game. He's the best QB on the roster if you compare College to College, but we won't even give him a snap. In the last game of the season, in a season where all hope is lost because we lack a QB, you don't think, hey, maybe we should give our #3 guy a chance to play and take a shot at him actually being like the next Tom Brady, someone he was compared to in the draft. You can't fool yourself thinking Crennel and Pioli were the only ones to have input on that decision.

As for the rest, I never said I was wanting to wait for the next "luck". I've already stated I want to get a QB in this draft, and early. I've been a big fan of drafting a QB in the last 5 drafts here because there are guys I legitimately want this team to draft because I think they'll fit well, and we don't always end up with them, but hey, I'm not the GM or Coach, I have no input here.

What I did say, and I stick by it, is that I'll gladly spend that #1 draft pick on ANYONE, be it Te'o, Smith, or even an LT if we lose Albert, as long as we aren't making a huge "WTF?" mistake. As in, if Geno blows the combine up and ends up being the real deal in terms of metrics and elevates himself from the field of players, I'm all for it. I'll be pissed if he doesn't get picked. But if all of the QB class decides to shit the bed in the combine and pro days, and a guy like Te'o blows up, I'm going to be pissed that we would pick Geno, and not Te'O, because the selection will feel forced, dirty, as if our only reasoning to draft him, was because we haven't taken a chance on a QB in however long.

That, right there, is the mentality I hate. The Mentality you are working from. Jacksonville did the same thing, do you think they liked their Gabbert selection? Gabbert was a much worse QB in college than Stanzi, and we've yet to play the kid. But, as the kids would put it, Jacksonville was "thirsty" for a QB, and they took a shot. Now look at their team, #2 draft pick this year.

Originally Posted by Thig Lyfe

let's trade our #1 pick to Jason Whitlock for Jeff George

Done deal.

Originally Posted by Molitoth

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Same.

Go watch a bunch of Geno tape, I think you can be converted.

I have, and I'm impressed, but having watched Pat White play a similar game in college, ending up a late round pick, and then going to play baseball, I'm a little skeptic on West Virginia/Virginia Tech QB's transitioning to the pros. I want to see Senior Bowl tape, Combine data, Pro Day workouts, before I jump on that bandwagon.