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Old 07-21-2008, 05:44 PM   #1851
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Originally Posted by BigRock View Post
Was this post indended to be a response to the points I made, or just confirmation of them?

You continue to rally on this issue like you're discovering new ground here. You aren't. Can you imagine someone signing up here and going "Gee, guys, I'm starting to think this Carl Peterson fellow might not be a very successful general manager!" And can you imagine him continuing to hammer that point, which everyone else figured out years ago?

That's you on this topic. And, true to form, you continue to use ridiculous hyperbole when trying to make your point.

You've made two references now to "ratings". Are you honestly under the impression that Raw's ratings are up because HHH isn't on the show? That's kind of an unusual position to take for any number of reasons, not the least of which being the upswing Smackdown is on since he moved there.

You said HHH is "always" in the main events, even when he's not wrestling for the world title. You gave 2 examples, one going back to 4 years ago. I can give you twice that many examples of PPVs where he WASN'T in the main event from just last year.

You're hammering a point that the rest of the world came to terms with 5 years ago, and you're completely exaggerating at best, making things up at worst, to try proving a position THAT DOESN'T NEED PROVING.

Do you really wonder why this...



...is the reaction you get?
He ME'd No Mercy, The Royal Rumble (one of the last two guys in the finish), No Way Out, WM, Backlash, ONS, NOC, GAB, just since his return from injury.

Just because I'm not some dumb sonofabitch who cheers who Vince tells me to doesn't make my analysis of the matter insignificant.

I can give you a plethora of all of the above examples, the run sheet shit with Shawn when they were in LA, the OVW stamp on the Spirit Squad's box, telling Cena that his fan base was comprised of six year olds. There comes a point when breaking the fourth wall to get yourself over is a detriment to the business.

You still haven't offered any kind of response to my comments other than someone else has mentioned it before. Well, perhaps that's because it's true. I'm loathe to quote T.O., but if it looks like a rat and smells like a rat, by golly, it's a rat.

Oh, but Hunter is booked as the top face, therefore he should be cheered. Well, he can't work a match above three snowflakes anymore without buckets of blood, his promos consist of "I'm better than you, [insert shoot comment]" for an interminably long period, and even when he doesn't have the titles, the announcers constantly put him over as the best in the business. The guy's ego is so big he simply cannot step aside. Even when he's not the champ, he has to be referred to as the best. Supposedly, that's good for business. Well, if it really was that good for business, why do RAW ratings drop when he's champ, and why do guys like the Hardys and Cena blow him out of the water in regards to merch sales? Why does CM Punk get buried when he outpops DX in Chicago?

It's a simple matter of ego. He has to be booked as a monster to satisfy his own insecurity. He wants to be Flair, and he wants to be bigger than Austin or Hogan, but he'll never be that. He's Dave Winfield trying to imitate Reggie Jackson...Hell, he's more Harold Minor than he is Michael Jordan. But the guys holding the books are constantly directed to push him as though he's the greatest thing to ever grace wrestling.

Just because you get a God push doesn't mean you deserve it: See: Lesnar, Brock; Goldberg, Bill.
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