[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Guess where most people will stop reading.

Which is exactly why you lose credibility. Three years ago, we were talking about drafting Russell Okung and moving Albert to Guard because he just wasn't good enough to play left tackle. Today, he's a top tier left tackle and people want to franchise tag him and are enraged at the thought that Pioli may choose to not re-sign him. He improved dramatically. It's ridiculous to suggest he's not significantly better than he was as a rookie.

I know, I know. Haley, our last coaching messiah, broke Bowe down to build him back up into a 1000-yard receiver who still has lapses in concentration.

Bowe didn't take the game seriously enough to even show up to camp in shape. He had to cheat to cut weight. Under Haley, he willingly began committing to the game, training on his off-time with Fitzgerald, and hitting peak physical condition. Those things never happened before Haley got there. He was a good receiver before Haley, but his work ethic and focus improved dramatically.

And the team lost 467 pounds collectively! No sizzle! The right 53!

And they never showed up to camp out of shape. Albert played a different brand of football and it's turned him into a top-notch left tackle. Hali lost 10-20 lbs and became a pro bowl OLB. Dorsey never showed up to camp out of shape again. Name one player that got worse because Haley asked them to cut weight? CP threw a shit fit that Haley would dare ask Albert to play at such an ungodly low weight. Guess who was wrong on that.

Cassel was clearly the great albatross that doomed what would otherwise be the brilliant coaching career of the best golfer in the NFL. But I have this one lingering question: If Haley was building everyone up, and all the players were ascending under him, why did the team play so poorly in '11? Fresh off a promising playoff performance in '10, that team was poised for greatness.

You don't think that has anything to do with the idea that our QB was so bad that our entire offense had to revolve around Jamaal Charles, a player who only played 1 game in 2011? Or the fact that they had to play 4 games under Tyler Palko (a QB that was only there because Pioli refused to listen to guys like Haley who were screaming for QB depth?)

He was a piece of ****ing shit HC. This doesn't necessarily mean that everything he touched turned to ****--after all, the man isn't Pioli--but he wasn't anywhere close to being good.

But we can continue to blame everyone else for Haley's failings. No way. No ****ing way was he really as bad as the results suggest. The stats lie.

We've acknowledged he had a piece of shit GM who dictated a shitty QB decision. We've acknowledged that no team can win these days without a franchise QB (let alone a good QB). I have acknowledged Haley's shortcomings. I don't know if he would become a better coach with a better GM. But the level of blame that gets put on his shoulder is ridiculous, as is the refusal to give him credit where credit is due. This place is exaggeration planet. They exaggerate how bad people they hate are, and exaggerate how great people they like are. Haley is no exception.