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Old 06-13-2018, 11:27 PM   #141
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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale View Post
Well, recent relative to what?

Turkey is certainly more moderate and advanced than most of the area.. but goddamn. It's still pretty bad and heading in the wrong direction right now.

I don't want to make a joke about the special olympics gold medal, but I'm failing to find another analogy.

It's probably naive to think Iran could have done better, even if you kept the clerics out of the leader chairs. People in the middle east suck at representative governments. That's how we ended up with the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt after the Arab Spring. I never thought I'd believe a military coup overthrowing an elected government was a GOOD thing.
The Turkey that you were describing. I was wondering if it's been about the same for some time now, or if it's become better, or if it's gotten worse
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