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Old 10-16-2006, 11:10 PM  
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Cubs going after A-Rod

just heard it on ESPN...knew some were on here talking about Roy-els going after him,or at least wishing.
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Old 10-17-2006, 06:16 AM   #31
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No team in baseball is dealing an a young ace for him.

If the Yankees demands are a young, top of the rotation starter, they aren't getting what they want.
They won't go after guys like the Tigers have in their rotation. They dont need to. They never look long term because they don't have to. They can spend for the short term. They will go after a guy who can give them maybe a few years as a solid starter. Somebody that can give them a good solid 6 innings a start. If their hitting lineup is in order then that is all they will need. Is this the best way to go? I don't think so but this is what they will do. And on paper this is what will work. IMO they need to build their team through the farm system like they did in the past.
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Old 10-17-2006, 06:18 AM   #32
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Exactly.

I watched him take more third call strikes than anyone I can even remember.

He is an all or nothing guy. He doesn't do little things to help a team.
Yup, because if he guesses wrong on a pitch he won't do what most truly great hitters do and foul it off or go with it to the opposite field. He seems to have no concept of battling or expanding the strike zone and shortening his swing when need be.
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Old 10-17-2006, 06:20 AM   #33
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They won't go after guys like the Tigers have in their rotation. They dont need to. They never look long term because they don't have to. They can spend for the short term. They will go after a guy who can give them maybe a few years as a solid starter. Somebody that can give them a good solid 6 innings a start. If their hitting lineup is in order then that is all they will need.
And they will lose, and we all know that, because Steinbrenner has the baseball IQ of Corky. I can't really say that I blame Cashman all that much for their struggles (although I think he's at best a mediocre GM), because George doesn't know what it's like to have to grow a business. He just inherits or buys it and throws money at problems.
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Old 10-17-2006, 06:23 AM   #34
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And they will lose, and we all know that, because Steinbrenner has the baseball IQ of Corky. I can't really say that I blame Cashman all that much for their struggles (although I think he's at best a mediocre GM), because George doesn't know what it's like to have to grow a business. He just inherits or buys it and throws money at problems.
George needs to kick the bucket or get suspended again for the Yankees to return to the top..the more he gets involved..the bigger joke they become...

They need stick michael to take over again..
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Old 10-17-2006, 06:23 AM   #35
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And they will lose, and we all know that, because Steinbrenner has the baseball IQ of Corky. I can't really say that I blame Cashman all that much for their struggles (although I think he's at best a mediocre GM), because George doesn't know what it's like to have to grow a business. He just inherits or buys it and throws money at problems.
Then how do you account for all the titles that Corky won in the 90's?
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Old 10-17-2006, 06:29 AM   #36
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Yup, because if he guesses wrong on a pitch he won't do what most truly great hitters do and foul it off or go with it to the opposite field. He seems to have no concept of battling or expanding the strike zone and shortening his swing when need be.
A few Yankees players came out and said they think he just guesses when batting.

I think Chicago is potentially a good environment for him. Those fans need a hero with a bat, so they'll embrace him. Whether or not that fixes his problems... who knows?
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Old 10-17-2006, 06:30 AM   #37
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Then how do you account for all the titles that Corky won in the 90's?
Because he stayed out of the baseball operations.

He let his GM go out and get role players. Scott Brosious, Chad Curtis, Paul O'Neill, Luis Sojo.

He went out and got guys that played baseball the right way.
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Old 10-17-2006, 06:33 AM   #38
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George never stays out of baseball operations. He always has the last say. I just feel he has changed his outlook but has always been the man in the front office. That new outlook isn't the best one now but he is not going anywhere any time soon.
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Old 10-17-2006, 06:48 AM   #39
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Well, with the Cubs supposely raising their payroll up to 115 million, that's probably possible.

I'm sure the Cubs are going to try to keep Aramis. I would be surprised if Aramis walks, but that can depend how much he is asking.

Wood is not a FA yet, but will be. The Cubs would be very foolish to pick up that 13 million option for an oft-injured pitcher. One way the Cubs could do is sign him to a 1 year base salary as a reliever (closer) becuase Wood's starting days are over.

The Cubs would be foolish to let Zambrano go.

I wonder if the hiring of Pinella for the Cubs can make A-Rod opt out of his no-trade clause, and go to Chicago?
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Because he stayed out of the baseball operations.

He let his GM go out and get role players. Scott Brosious, Chad Curtis, Paul O'Neill, Luis Sojo.

He went out and got guys that played baseball the right way.
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Call me crazy, but I think the problem may have been their pitching.
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