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Old 01-11-2007, 12:25 PM  
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updating the other HOF thread. DT is still on, and yes, I hope we get a good presenter this year too. 58 forever!

http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/st...?story_id=2285

Listed alphabetically, the 17 finalists with their positions, teams, and years active follow:

Fred Dean - Defensive End - 1975-1981 San Diego Chargers, 1981-1985 San Francisco 49ers
Richard Dent - Defensive End - 1983-1993, 1995 Chicago Bears, 1994 San Francisco 49ers, 1996 Indianapolis Colts, 1997 Philadelphia Eagles
Russ Grimm - Guard - 1981-1991 Washington Redskins
Ray Guy - Punter - 1973-1986 Oakland/Los Angeles Raiders
Gene Hickerson - Guard - 1958-1973 Cleveland Browns
Michael Irvin - Wide Receiver - 1988-1999 Dallas Cowboys
Bob Kuechenberg - Guard - 1970-1984 Miami Dolphins
Bruce Matthews - Guard, Tackle, Center - 1983-2001 Houston Oilers/Tennessee Oilers/Titans
Art Monk - Wide Receiver - 1980-1993 Washington Redskins, 1994 New York Jets, 1995 Philadelphia Eagles
Andre Reed - Wide Receiver - 1985-1999 Buffalo Bills, 2000 Washington Redskins
Charlie Sanders - Tight End - 1968-1977 Detroit Lions
Paul Tagliabue - NFL Commissioner - 1989-2006
Derrick Thomas - Linebacker - 1989-1999 Kansas City Chiefs
Thurman Thomas - Running Back - 1988-1999 Buffalo Bills, 2000 Miami Dolphins
Andre Tippett - Linebacker - 1982-1993 New England Patriots
Roger Wehrli - Cornerback - 1969-1982 St. Louis Cardinals
Gary Zimmerman - Tackle - 1986-1992 Minnesota Vikings, 1993-1997 Denver Broncos

Dent, Grimm, Guy, Hickerson, Irvin, Kuechenberg, Monk, Derrick Thomas, Thurman Thomas, Wehrli, and Zimmerman have all been finalists in previous years.


First to get cut - from the list of 25 (released in Nov)
Terrell Davis - so quit talking about if he will make it this year, closet donkey fans
Dermontti Dawson
Randy Gradishar
Kevin Greene
Charles Haley
Lester Hayes
Randall McDaniel
Art Modell
Ken Stabler


Charlie Sanders
Gene Hickerson
were added from senior members, they were not on the original 25.


What is everyone's revised predictions?
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Old 01-18-2007, 10:21 PM   #46
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And how old was Bruce Smith when he finally passsed Reggie?
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Old 01-18-2007, 10:22 PM   #47
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And how old was Bruce Smith when he finally passsed Reggie?

he was just a role player his last few years with the Redskins..
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Old 01-18-2007, 10:28 PM   #48
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People counted DT out his whole life-doesn't surprise me that folks are still down on him. He should have been a first ballot HOFer if there ever was one.
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Old 01-18-2007, 10:50 PM   #49
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People counted DT out his whole life-

Yeah, that's why he was passed over until the 4th overall pick of the draft...
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Yeah, that's why he was passed over until the 4th overall pick of the draft...
Thank God Carl didn't screw it up.
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Old 01-19-2007, 02:58 AM   #51
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We all loved DT but i dont think he would have had 6 more 13 sack seasons. Maybe a few 10, but he was on the decline. HE was still fast, but you could see it in the last 2 years of him playing he wasnt the same guy.

Anyways, I hope he makes it this year. He certainly deserves it.
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We all loved DT but i dont think he would have had 6 more 13 sack seasons. Maybe a few 10, but he was on the decline. HE was still fast, but you could see it in the last 2 years of him playing he wasnt the same guy.

Anyways, I hope he makes it this year. He certainly deserves it.

I swear the attitude on this site is soooo wishy washy. how the hell do you compare his sack numbers to those of two DE?

Am I missing something, and this isn't just directed at you kciv, I know you were commenting on what others were saying too.

DT was a LB, he dropped into coverage, he got his hands on the ball, he disrupted the offensive flow, not just from the sack angle. Yet he was very succesful at that too. He was comparible to a Lawernce taylor, a beast that the Offense was worried about.

He should make it this year, regardless of not being the sack leader, or needing 13 sacks in the final 6 years. I doubt that too, unless he was just pinning his ears back every down. but he would have had more to his numbers, because he was that good. HOF + DT = 2007.
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