Emil Brown Sucks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Page 3

Brianfo · 07-02-2007, 08:47 PM

All we needed was a fly ball and he strikes out. He SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!

**petegz28** · 07-02-2007, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

Why keep a 1 year rental? The guy is a closer and has had his share of saves and K's. He will get traded, someone will want him at the deadline.

I just don't see that happening. In fact why would you screw with our Pen at all right now? You realize in the last month or so our Pen has an ERA of 2?

If I were looking to trade anyone right now it would be Teahen, Sanders, Brown and Sweeney

Sure-Oz · 07-02-2007, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

I just don't see that happening. In fact why would you screw with our Pen at all right now? You realize in the last month or so our Pen has an ERA of 2?

If I were looking to trade anyone right now it would be Teahen, Sanders, Brown and Sweeney

Are the royals going to get to the playoffs? you think if Dotel gets 25-30 saves he will stay on here when other teams will pay way more? Doubtful, we need more young players here and he is a chip. Why trade Teahan?

**petegz28** · 07-02-2007, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

His lineups are a consistent moronic desicion. Gload at #4?

I didn't it either. In fact I can't for the life of me figure out why Buck wasn't batting 4th. Either way I think Teahen at this point should probably be 4th until Butler or Gordon develop some and Gathright should be leading off with DD batting 2nd.

**petegz28** · 07-02-2007, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

Are the royals going to get to the playoffs? you think if Dotel gets 25-30 saves he will stay on here when other teams will pay way more? Doubtful, we need more young players here and he is a chip. Why trade Teahan?

Like I said I just don't see it happening. Moore has focused on our pitching and Dotel was one of his big off-season signings. I just don't see it but I have been known to be wrong.

As far as trading Teahen I wouldn't but he is good trade bait. Especially now that he has shown he can play RF and 1st base.

Sure-Oz · 07-02-2007, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

Like I said I just don't see it happening. Moore has focused on our pitching and Dotel was one of his big off-season signings. I just don't see it but I have been known to be wrong.

As far as trading Teahen I wouldn't but he is good trade bait. Especially now that he has shown he can play RF and 1st base.

I would love to keep the pen as it is, but we probably have a closer of the future somewhere around here, maybe greinke, who knows. I know Riske probably will be called and asked for as well. We'll see what happens, i also wonder what happend to Teahans power.

**petegz28** · 07-02-2007, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

I would love to keep the pen as it is, but we probably have a closer of the future somewhere around here, maybe greinke, who knows. I know Riske probably will be called and asked for as well. We'll see what happens, i also wonder what happend to Teahans power.

You can send Riske and Musser and I could care less. Take Duckworth with you. Is he even still on the team?

I like Grienke right where he is. He does not need to be a closer. He is an awesome middle-innings pitcher and can give you 1-3 innings easy. Gobble, Grienke, Soria, Dotel......those are my guys in the Pen. Those are the guys I go to in games like tonight. Peralta and Riske are inning fillers. Both have some flashes but not liek the other guys I mentioned.

Sure-Oz · 07-02-2007, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

You can send Riske and Musser and I could care less. Take Duckworth with you. Is he even still on the team?

I like Grienke right where he is. He does not need to be a closer. He is an awesome middle-innings pitcher and can give you 1-3 innings easy. Gobble, Grienke, Soria, Dotel......those are my guys in the Pen. Those are the guys I go to in games like tonight. Peralta and Riske are inning fillers. Both have some flashes but not liek the other guys I mentioned.

Riske has not been bad at all lately honestly. Everyone pictures Soria as a starter, he has too many quality pitches to stay in the pen. Of course Greinke is still a potential starter as well, we'll see how these coaches do. Duckworth is on the DL, and Musser, well he hasn't shown me shit.

tk13 · 07-02-2007, 10:43 PM

If we get a good offer I really expect Dayton to pull the trigger. There shouldn't be anyone in our bullpen that's untouchable. That doesn't mean we have to trade anyone, but Dayton should be listening to offers and I'm sure he will be.

Bullpen help is at such a premium, it's why we traded way Mac, Sisco, Affeldt, Burgos, etc... And now we really have a better bullpen than we did with those guys. If we can flip them for good talent, I think we should. But this is where I really differed from Baird and go in-line with Dayton. The bullpen is an area that turns over every year anyway, it's hard to find guys to pitch long-term down there (see MacDougal)... and right now the value of some of our guys should be pretty high. There are gonna be some desperate teams out there (Yankees, Cubs...) Dayton needs to be banging down their door Finding 5 good starters is still Dayton's top priority, I'm sure.

Demonpenz · 07-02-2007, 10:47 PM

I wonder if we could deal grienke. He is never going to live up to of what his stuff could be.

**petegz28** · 07-02-2007, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

Riske has not been bad at all lately honestly. Everyone pictures Soria as a starter, he has too many quality pitches to stay in the pen. Of course Greinke is still a potential starter as well, we'll see how these coaches do. Duckworth is on the DL, and Musser, well he hasn't shown me shit.

Well with the way baseball goes today your Pen is almost if not more important than your starter. Starters are considered quality if they get into the 6th and 7th inning. When you pull someone like Grienke from the Pen and he is humming 97mph heaters and then a 74mph nasty-slow curve ball in the 7tha nd 8th inning you are doing nothing but making it even tougher on the hitters.

Hitters want to get into the ballpen usually why? Cause most guys in the pen only throw heat and their junk pitches are just for show.

I don't want Grienke as a starter throwing 94 and hgetting shelled. I want him coming out of the pen humming them in at 100mph then melting someone's face slow-mo style with huge breaking curve.

Pitchers who can throw junk late in games are more effective if you ask me. Grienke reminds me a lot of Jeff Montgomery only with a 98mph fastball and a much better curve. Not sure Iw ant Girenke as a "closer" but if he comes out int he 8th and gasses hitters then bring him on in the 9th.

Hammock Parties · 07-02-2007, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

I would love to keep the pen as it is, but we probably have a closer of the future somewhere around here, maybe greinke, who knows. I know Riske probably will be called and asked for as well. We'll see what happens, i also wonder what happend to Teahans power.

I had heard something, not sure the validity, that teahen has been playing kinda roughed up for the past couple of months, which is why they decided to play him a couple games at 1st to get his bat in there without all the running around in the outfield and whatnot.

**petegz28** · 07-02-2007, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Jayhawkerman2001

I had heard something, not sure the validity, that teahen has been playing kinda roughed up for the past couple of months, which is why they decided to play him a couple games at 1st to get his bat in there without all the running around in the outfield and whatnot.

Well other than the DP he hit into and the foul ball he dropped tonight he looked pretty good. He hasn't had the HR power this year but he came through tonight with a couple nice hits and totally got the hose job from a guy at 3rd base pretending to be an Umpire.

big nasty kcnut · 07-03-2007, 03:33 AM

Royals win baby whoo hoo. Also i think we need to shore up on starting pitching and a better bat.

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07-02-2007, 10:43 PM	#38
tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $2032500	If we get a good offer I really expect Dayton to pull the trigger. There shouldn't be anyone in our bullpen that's untouchable. That doesn't mean we have to trade anyone, but Dayton should be listening to offers and I'm sure he will be. Bullpen help is at such a premium, it's why we traded way Mac, Sisco, Affeldt, Burgos, etc... And now we really have a better bullpen than we did with those guys. If we can flip them for good talent, I think we should. But this is where I really differed from Baird and go in-line with Dayton. The bullpen is an area that turns over every year anyway, it's hard to find guys to pitch long-term down there (see MacDougal)... and right now the value of some of our guys should be pretty high. There are gonna be some desperate teams out there (Yankees, Cubs...) Dayton needs to be banging down their door Finding 5 good starters is still Dayton's top priority, I'm sure.
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