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Coogs · 08-18-2007, 08:33 AM

Sort of sounds like they want to go with Croyle, which I think most us suspected all along.

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Edwards will wait on QB decision
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star

Brodie Croyle tossed an interception one series after throwing a touchdown pass.
Don't have HBO? Read a scene-by-scene recap of Episode 2 of 'Hard Knocks: Training Camp with the Kansas City Chiefs.'
Herm Edwards faces a quarterback decision that might not be simple, but he couldn’t ask for it to be better defined.

On the one hand he has veteran Damon Huard, the reliable option because he will do as he’s coached.

On the other, he has a largely unknown quantity in young Brodie Croyle, who gives the Chiefs greater offensive capability because of his superior passing skills. Croyle has also shown the disturbing habit of throwing senseless interceptions in two preseason games.

“That’s how it shapes up,” Edwards said. “That’s the decision you’ve got to make. There’s a difference between those guys. There’s no doubt.”

Edwards said he will wait until after Thursday night’s game against New Orleans at Arrowhead Stadium to declare a starter for the regular season. He indicated Croyle would start against the Saints and play the first half and possibly a possession in the third before being replaced by Huard.

Croyle could conceivably seize the job by playing as he did on his first drive of Thursday night’s game against the Dolphins. He hit on five of his six pass attempts, including a 21-yard touchdown pass to Chris Hannon on third down.

He might forfeit the job to Huard with another interception like the one he threw on the next series. He forced a pass for Kris Wilson into the end zone and it was intercepted.

He threw a similarly foolish interception the week before in Cleveland.

“I can live with those (mistakes) if you learn from them and they don’t become who you are,” Edwards said. “If you’re one of those guys who turns the ball over every game, that’s not good. You can’t have that.

“If you turn it over, you’ve got to have a good enough defense to bail you out. You need your defense to bail you out, to protect you and in the worst-case scenario, you might give up three points.”

Judging from the two preseason games, the Chiefs might have that kind of defense. The starters have yet to yield a touchdown even after Croyle and Huard compromised field position with interceptions.

Neither the Browns nor the Dolphins have a powerful offensive team. The Chiefs will face a better defensive test against quarterback Drew Brees and the Saints.

If Edwards is convinced his defense is capable of continually digging the Chiefs out of trouble caused by turnovers, that might be a factor weighing in Croyle’s favor.

“When they turn it over, you can’t let them score,” he said. “I don’t care who your quarterback is. Every once in a while, you’re going to turn the ball over. That happens in football. When it does, can you put the fire out? It’s a little brush fire now. Keep it a brush fire. Don’t let the thing turn into an inferno. You stop them and you hold them to three and you take your medicine, but you don’t give them seven points.

“You can survive two of those and it’s only six points. You’re still OK. But it’s catastrophic if you turn it over and they score seven and then turn it over again and allow them to score again. That’s how you get into trouble.”

StcChief · 08-18-2007, 06:29 PM

Still Croyle's job to lose.

Sandolf · 08-19-2007, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by TRR

Against 3rd string defenses, Croyle and Huard would look like Pro Bowlers!

Huard has enough experience at that in the NFLE. Nevermind the Pro-Bowl... Croyle would do well just to develop some poise. It'll be a long long long season if he starts!

TEX · 08-19-2007, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Croyle is a 2nd-year player making mental mistakes - easily correctable.

Huard is an 11th-year player making PHYSICAL mistakes - might not be correctable at all.

Might not be as easy as you think.

Huard did that last year in preseason as well. When it's for real - he gets it done.

milkman · 08-19-2007, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX

Might not be as easy as you think.

Huard did that last year in preseason as well. When it's for real - he gets it done.

When it's for real, Tony Gonzales saves his ass.

**BigRedChief** · 08-19-2007, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Agreed. Its too bad Carl would rather win a few more games with Huard to keep a few more butts in the seats and sell a few more beers.

I disagree. I think the vast majority of the Chief fans want to see Croyle start regardless if he makes some bone head plays this season because of his upside. So if King Carl wants to keep the buts in the seats and the fan base happy and shelling out the bucks......He should push to have Croyle start.

KCJohnny · 08-19-2007, 09:37 PM

Carl & Herm may be willing to settle for getting younger in '07 to make a title run in '08. That means starting Croyle, Bowe and (possibly) letting LJ rot in contract hell. There is no way the Chiefs are a serious playoff team in '07 with a young, untried QB. The OL is clearly not what we are used to.

I'd put up with a youth movement if it meant being a strong offensive performing team in 2008, but honestly, we are a few players away from that. With TG, LJ and Huard the Chiefs have a shot at making the post-seaon this year seeing our D is makedly improved. If Bowe turns into a field-stretching gamer and we get real support from the FB position, this O can hang.

Prediction: Herm goes for the youth movement.

**Tribal Warfare** · 08-19-2007, 10:04 PM

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KCJohnny Blind, deceived homer Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Maryland, USA Casino cash: $10004900	Carl & Herm may be willing to settle for getting younger in '07 to make a title run in '08. That means starting Croyle, Bowe and (possibly) letting LJ rot in contract hell. There is no way the Chiefs are a serious playoff team in '07 with a young, untried QB. The OL is clearly not what we are used to. I'd put up with a youth movement if it meant being a strong offensive performing team in 2008, but honestly, we are a few players away from that. With TG, LJ and Huard the Chiefs have a shot at making the post-seaon this year seeing our D is makedly improved. If Bowe turns into a field-stretching gamer and we get real support from the FB position, this O can hang. Prediction: Herm goes for the youth movement. __________________
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