Brodie Croyle- What do you expect in '08? - Page 3

Pablo · 01:11 AM

Here are the parameters for this thread:

1) Assuming we don't draft a QB in the 1st Round

2) Brodie is named the starter

3) We make definitive improvements to the O-Line via draft, possibly FA.

4) L.J. and Kolby return healthy and ready to roll.
Edit:
5) Brodie remains healthy

That being said, if Croyle is the starter, what do you expect as far as stats, wins, game started, games played?

What would it take for you to be satisfied?

Here are some of my expectations(what it would take for me to be reasonably satisfied):

2,700-3,200 yards passing
60% completion
15-20 TD's/15 INT's

16 Games Started (I'd only be satisfied if he started the whole season, without injury.)

I'd be satisfied with 7-9 wins.

**jjchieffan** · 12-30-2007, 11:40 PM

I think he has a similar season to what Cutler had this year. 20 TD, 14 INT 3497 yds, 88.1 passer rating.

catfish307 · 12-30-2007, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by GonzoRox88

Haha. Okay, let's use the 6 games he has played in for a projection point.

6 Games:

927 yards passing/155 a game

5 TD's/5 INT's

58.98% completion

16 Games:

2,472 yards passing

13 TD's/13 INT's

Completion % unchanged

I only used the games he started in for statistical comparison. If I throw in the games he came in for Huard or played part of the stats just get better.

That's just a very loose projection of what he could have done statistically if he'd started 16 games this season, could be worse, probably would have been better. We'll never know. But I certainly don't look for him to average less than 100 yards passing a game and less than 1 TD and nearly 2 INT's a game like you do.

Call me an optomist if you like, but numbers don't lie. I don't pin him to do nearly as poorly as you might think with a hopefully improved supporting cast.

Hell If he is the starter I'd love to see him throw for 10,000 yards and 50 TD's with no int's. I also don't see him staying healthy enough to get the stats.

MadMax · 12-30-2007, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by catfish307

I'll give him 1500 yards, 30 or more interceptions and 12 touchdowns if he plays all 16 games and the O line improves. I still dont believe he has what it takes to be a starter in this league.

I think I'll wait before I take your word or opinion...

ChiefsCountry · 12-30-2007, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan

I think he has a similar season to what Cutler had this year. 20 TD, 14 INT 3497 yds, 88.1 passer rating.

I agree something like that.

Pablo · 12-30-2007, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by catfish307

Hell If he is the starter I'd love to see him throw for 10,000 yards and 50 TD's with no int's. I also don't see him staying healthy enough to get the stats.

You're right. All of these stats are contingent on him staying healthy and starting 16 games. If we acquired a LT who could protect his blinside, and one decent guard to stop the pass-rush up front, I think it could work wonders.

I think he's taken quite a few lumps, and got right back up. At the same time I think this coaching staff has handled him with kid gloves, and those are about to come off. If he gets hurt in the first week, the middle of the season, or the last of the season, he's obviously not the guy for the job. I'm just being optomistic and hoping a couple more OL and a RB in the backfield that's willing to block will give Croyle the adequate amount of time to help him further along in his development.

MadMax · 12-31-2007, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

I agree something like that.

F it at this point bring in Pennington and cut Croyle then let all the whiney lil bitches on here get the big 7-9 season they so mis... Piss on this team and the reeruned fans that smoke the same pipe...Saddest thing is most of the idiots have 00000000000 clue about what it means to be a Chiefs fan.

el borracho · 12-31-2007, 01:07 AM

Nobody is going to throw 30 interceptions. That just doesn't happen.

Pablo · 12-31-2007, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by el borracho

Nobody is going to throw 30 interceptions. That just doesn't happen.

Yeah..I'd imagine you'd be seeing the bench somewhere around the 20-25 mark.

el borracho · 12-31-2007, 01:15 AM

IIRC, Green threw 24 in his first year here and it was a team record. I'm not sure what the league record is but I would be surprised if it was as many as 30. That is just a ridiculous number of interceptions.

Pablo · 12-31-2007, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by el borracho

IIRC, Green threw 24 in his first year here and it was a team record. I'm not sure what the league record is but I would be surprised if it was as many as 30. That is just a ridiculous number of interceptions.

Especially considering he projected Croyle to throw for 1,500 yards. That's an INT for every 50 yards he throws.

Pretty outrageous.

JohnnyV13 · 12-31-2007, 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Cochise

You can't build a line in one offseason, and we need 4 players.

I just hope he's better at the end of the year than the start.

San Diego built a line in one year in 2004. They had 5 new starters (tho 2 players moved to different positions), and the line gelled by year's end. They started two rookie linemen with Nick Hardwick at C and Shane Olivea at RT, and brought in a veteran stop gap at LT (Roman Oben).

That year, Drew Brees blossomed after struggling for 3 seasons. The chargers thought so little of brees, they took Eli Manning no. 1 overall and traded him for Philip Rivers plus a 1st they turned into shawn merriman in 2005.

Also, Antonio Gates came from nowhere (undrafted rookie FA) to set the NFL record to TE touchdowns in a season.

HonestChieffan · 12-31-2007, 07:23 AM

By preseason end we will be looking at his replacement, Herm will say its OKAYYYYYY, and you will get over it.

cookster50 · 12-31-2007, 07:45 AM

Injured while getting some from Kelli.

CupidStunt · 12-31-2007, 07:45 AM

League-worst 5.8 YPA, 5 games missed due to injury, 15 INTs, 60 sacks.

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