Conversation between me and Clayton 11/05/07

[Hootie]

Regarding Eli Manning:

Hootie2485 (1:59:29 AM): he will break every record Favre is setting other than the INT record
Hootie2485 (1:59:32 AM): that one is Favre's to keep
Hootie2485 (1:59:36 AM): you know who is impressing me this year
Hootie2485 (1:59:38 AM): Eli
bfett81 (1:59:42 AM): god no
bfett81 (1:59:43 AM): he sucks
Hootie2485 (1:59:45 AM): no way
Hootie2485 (1:59:47 AM): watch him
bfett81 (1:59:49 AM): he has like 9 picks
Hootie2485 (1:59:50 AM): he's getting there
bfett81 (1:59:52 AM): lame
Hootie2485 (1:59:55 AM): he really is
Hootie2485 (2:00:03 AM): he has a great arm, great pocket awareness, toughness
bfett81 (2:00:03 AM): piece of shit
Hootie2485 (2:00:07 AM): dude separates his shoulder
Hootie2485 (2:00:09 AM): plays the next week
bfett81 (2:00:09 AM): his weapons are playing well, that's it
Hootie2485 (2:00:13 AM): disagree
Hootie2485 (2:00:16 AM): watch a Giants game
Hootie2485 (2:00:18 AM): Eli is getting it done
Hootie2485 (2:00:22 AM): he makes good reads, too
Hootie2485 (2:00:27 AM): he will be a top 5 QB in no time...
Hootie2485 (2:00:28 AM): dude
bfett81 (2:00:29 AM): lol
Hootie2485 (2:00:32 AM): I thought Peyton was super overrated
Hootie2485 (2:00:33 AM): until 2003
Hootie2485 (2:00:38 AM): when I saw his greatness against the Chiefs
bfett81 (2:00:44 AM): eli manning - 58.2 %, 6.4 YPA, 13 TD, 9 INT
Hootie2485 (2:00:45 AM): Eli will never be Peyton
bfett81 (2:00:52 AM): with PLAXICO BURRESS, SHOCKEY AND TOOMER?
Hootie2485 (2:00:57 AM): Eli isn't going to be Peyton, but he is better than Rivers
Hootie2485 (2:00:59 AM): dude
bfett81 (2:01:02 AM): HUARD is beating eli in every category but TDs
Hootie2485 (2:01:04 AM): Shockey is overrated times 10
Hootie2485 (2:01:10 AM): Plaxico is a stud
Hootie2485 (2:01:13 AM): but Toomer is so-so
Hootie2485 (2:01:23 AM): just watch Eli a little...like Huard, sometimes the stats don't tell the story
bfett81 (2:01:28 AM): it's still a shitload of weapons, and jacobs and the OL are playing well
Hootie2485 (2:01:37 AM): Jacobs wasn't back until a few weeks ago
bfett81 (2:01:42 AM): 23rd ranked passing offense
bfett81 (2:01:46 AM): sorry, too many numbers against eli
Hootie2485 (2:01:46 AM): and Eli had to play that dumb stat killing game in London
Hootie2485 (2:01:53 AM): Just watch him play
Hootie2485 (2:01:58 AM): I'm not making this shit up
Hootie2485 (2:02:02 AM): Eli is going to be a really good QB
bfett81 (2:02:03 AM): he's crap
bfett81 (2:02:10 AM): you take away plaxico and he would look like a total bust
Hootie2485 (2:02:12 AM): I would give my left nut for Eli to be on the Chiefs
bfett81 (2:02:20 AM): half his TDs are just thrown up for grabs
Hootie2485 (2:02:24 AM): no way
Hootie2485 (2:02:29 AM): watch Plax's TDs
Hootie2485 (2:02:32 AM): he doesn't Moss them
bfett81 (2:02:36 AM): sure he does
Hootie2485 (2:02:39 AM): He had one where he ran most of the way which was awesome
bfett81 (2:02:41 AM): they tried one against miami
Hootie2485 (2:02:41 AM): no he doesn't
bfett81 (2:02:43 AM): just didn't catch it
Hootie2485 (2:02:47 AM): I'm sure they try it
Hootie2485 (2:02:54 AM): but I've seen him score the majority of his TD's this year
Hootie2485 (2:03:05 AM): and twice Plax did all the work with great catches
bfett81 (2:03:05 AM): find me one stat that says eli is worth a shit
bfett81 (2:03:10 AM): i bet his third down % sucks too
Hootie2485 (2:03:13 AM): dude
Hootie2485 (2:03:16 AM): just do me a favor
Hootie2485 (2:03:21 AM): watch the Giants when you get a chance
Hootie2485 (2:03:25 AM): and watch how Eli plays
bfett81 (2:03:26 AM): i've seen them like 3 times
Hootie2485 (2:03:27 AM): you'll be impressed
bfett81 (2:03:31 AM): he's balls
Hootie2485 (2:03:39 AM): we'll remember this conversation in a year
Hootie2485 (2:03:41 AM): and you'll laugh
Hootie2485 (2:03:46 AM): because Eli is on his way
bfett81 (2:03:46 AM): lol
Hootie2485 (2:03:52 AM): he is WAY BETTER than Rivers
Hootie2485 (2:03:57 AM): probably even Roetlisberger
bfett81 (2:04:00 AM): dude no way
bfett81 (2:04:08 AM): rivers is not nearly as mistake prone
Hootie2485 (2:04:10 AM): JUST WATCH
bfett81 (2:04:11 AM): except against KC
bfett81 (2:04:16 AM): and roethlisberger is a BEAST
bfett81 (2:04:20 AM): eli can't touch big ben
bfett81 (2:04:24 AM): in talent or production
Hootie2485 (2:04:39 AM): Just wait
Hootie2485 (2:04:43 AM): Eli is going to be awesome
Hootie2485 (2:04:51 AM): that's a Rick Houtteman guarantee

[milkman]

I'm not going to sit here and rate QBs, but if you ask me would I rather have Eli Manning or Philip Rivers, I'm taking Manning.

I've always said I define a franchise QB by what he does when it matters most.

Football is the ultimate team sport, but there are times in the playoffs when your QB has to show up and make plays, and Manning has done that.

Rivers, not so much.

[Brock]

Originally Posted by milkman

I'm not going to sit here and rate QBs, but if you ask me would I rather have Eli Manning or Philip Rivers, I'm taking Manning.

I've always said I define a franchise QB by what he does when it matters most.

Football is the ultimate team sport, but there are times in the playoffs when your QB has to show up and make plays, and Manning has done that.

Rivers, not so much.

I'll agree with that. Manning plays better in big games.

[blaise]

The problem I see with Eli is he'll try and throw a 25 yard pass downfield to a WR that's double covered when Ahmad Bradshaw is sitting there alone 7 yards downfield for an easy completion. That's good and bad, I guess. Higher risk, higher reward. But sometimes it's like, just take the yardage. Get second and 2.

[NJChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by milkman

I'll say this.

The Chiefs this year would be a SB contender with Eli Manning at QB.

It is a team sport, but no position can raise or sink your team like QB.

If they get fully healthy plus Eli I don't think there can be a doubt. They might be the most well rounded team in the AFC in that scenario, or atleast one of the most.

[Smed1065]

It sucks but yes a QB away IMHO. Been NM. This is going to be a great year for me so I assume this means we get a QB that can throw and just read.

No?

[Smed1065]

Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

If they get fully healthy plus Eli I don't think there can be a doubt. They might be the most well rounded team in the AFC in that scenario, or atleast one of the most.

Jump on any ec team. Healthy? LOL

[boogblaster]

not a Eli fan .. but hes lots better than what we have ......

[blaise]

Eli's a good Qb. There's maybe 4 or 5 QBs in the NFL you could say are definitely better.

[NJChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by blaise

Eli's a good Qb. There's maybe 4 or 5 QBs in the NFL you could say are definitely better.

I think you would do in any order
Rodgers
Brees
Brady
Peyton (if fully healthy)

then its between Eli, Ben, and Rivers for that final spot depending on the season each is having. With Peyton hurt this year, I think Eli was up in the 4th spot.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

I think you would do in any order
Rodgers
Brees
Brady
Peyton (if fully healthy)

then its between Eli, Ben, and Rivers for that final spot depending on the season each is having. With Peyton hurt this year, I think Eli was up in the 4th spot.

If Stafford can keep up the pace he's on, he'll definitely bump ahead of Eli.

[NJChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by Bowser

If Stafford can keep up the pace he's on, he'll definitely bump ahead of Eli.

Yes. If he does this again next year he is in the race for that spot as well. He certainly broke out like a lot of people, myself included, expected.

[jspchief]

So now that you bumped this, bump one of the threads where you had Huard balls deep in your ass.

Someone who was so ridiculously in love with Huard should run scared from past QB threads, not try to beat their chest over them.

[Reerun_KC]

Originally Posted by jspchief

So now that you bumped this, bump one of the threads where you had Huard balls deep in your ass.

Someone who was so ridiculously in love with Huard should run scared from past QB threads, not try to beat their chest over them.

I think this thread was a lovers spat...

GoChiefs and Hootie used to butt lick each other to death over Huard... It was ****ing sickening...

[ShortRoundChief]

Originally Posted by frazod

So is it safe to say that Eli Manning has no weaknesses?

Kryptonite.