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Old 09-09-2008, 11:55 AM  
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We should never punt on 4and1 unless inside our own red zone
Honestly, how often does Larry get shut down for less that a yard? The percentages are on our side. We have nothing to really lose this season by going for it and confidence to gain.
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Old 09-09-2008, 12:19 PM   #16
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Denver, Thanksgiving night at Arrowhead?
No it was the year before. I thought we beat the shit out of DEN on that Thanksgiving night game?
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Old 09-09-2008, 12:21 PM   #17
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No it was the year before. I thought we beat the shit out of DEN on that Thanksgiving night game?
You might be right.

I know I was there, and it was dark, so either game is a possibility. The year before was that 3:15 start when it was 13 degrees at kickoff...
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Old 09-09-2008, 12:22 PM   #18
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The 4th and 1 was 2005...Vermeil challenged, Taco cried, Ryan Sims celebrated....that was back when we threw on first down.
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Old 09-09-2008, 12:23 PM   #19
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The 4th and 1 was 2005...Vermeil challenged, Taco cried, Ryan Sims celebrated....that was back when we threw on first down.
Yep. You're right.
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Old 09-09-2008, 01:10 PM   #20
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If I were an offensive lineman for the Chiefs, I would ask......no........DEMAND that LJ do something special for me after the season. A trip....a car....a night out at the strip club.... For how much LJ wants to shove his head up their ass, it really should be considered rape. A courtesy gift is highly appropriate in that situation.
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Old 09-09-2008, 01:17 PM   #21
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I can't remember the last time we converted a 4th-and-1...
We converted one on Sunday. Larry went up the middle and gained about 2-3 yards.
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Old 09-09-2008, 01:22 PM   #22
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We converted one on Sunday. Larry went up the middle and gained about 2-3 yards.
Oops, I guess those were 3rd and 1s. We punted both times on 4th and 1. Larry converted both times he was given the ball on 3rd and 1.

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Old 09-09-2008, 01:26 PM   #23
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What if we're on our 21 yard line? Can we still punt?
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Old 09-09-2008, 01:52 PM   #24
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That's just dumb.
How is this nuts? LJ gets hard yards every time he carries the ball. Not much yesterday but even with the not much how many times did he not get a yard? The only way LJ doesn't get a yard is if he gets hit before the line of scrimmage.

We have nothing to lose by playing this way the rest of the season. No wins since last October!!!! When you need a win as badly as us, why the hell not do it? It would work 8 out of 10 times with LJ.
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Old 09-09-2008, 01:53 PM   #25
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We converted one on Sunday. Larry went up the middle and gained about 2-3 yards.
We didn't go on 4 and 1 at all.
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Old 09-09-2008, 01:53 PM   #26
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A number of years ago. a mathmatician published a paper suggesting NFL teams were not maximizing their winning chances b/c they didn't go for it on 4th down enough.
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Old 09-09-2008, 01:56 PM   #27
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What if we're on our 21 yard line? Can we still punt?

Yes we can punt from the 21 but not the 22.

I'm just saying we need to do something extreme to end this drought of winning
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Old 09-09-2008, 01:56 PM   #28
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