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Old 12-25-2008, 05:04 AM  
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Chiefs have only 17 players on the 47 man roster with 4 years or more experience. That's 18 rookies, 30 guys total in their 3rd year or less. That makes Kansas City the youngest team in the NFL. The departure of players like Pat Surtain, Damon Huard and Donnie Edwards would make the Chiefs even less bouyed by experience.

The Chiefs will in all likelihood bid on some of the players listed at site linked to above. Anybody got your attention? With the team $32 mil under the salary cap, I think the FO can afford a bit of a shopping spree.

Me? Julius Peppers and Albert Haynesworth would look great in red & gold. Safetyman Yeremiah Bell is only in his 5th year.


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Old 12-26-2008, 10:15 AM   #76
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Hmmm, let's take a look at some free agents New England has signed in past years:

Rodney Harrison
Adalius Thomas
Roosevelt Colvin
Mike Vrabel
Corey Dillon
And personally I would count Randy Moss as a free agent signing. Yes he was a trade but it was a one year rental and then they had to shell out the big bucks to keep him or he would have left as a free agent.

Again, if you have an opportunity to add talent through free agency, why not do it? Is it our money being spent? Nope. As long as our free agency moves don't put us in cap hell, who cares if we go out and spend it? Cap room not being used is a waste. And if a free agent signing is a bust? Not our problem, because it's not our money. Again, as long as we are not put in cap hell or spend outrageous amounts like the Raiders or Redskins I don't see why fans would be against adding talent in free agency. My personal opinion is that you add talent to your team any way possible and through any means. That includes trades, free agency, and of course the draft.
And what did all of that get them?
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Old 12-26-2008, 10:23 AM   #77
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And what did all of that get them?
A better team, than BEFORE they signed those guys. Nobody can argue Harrison didn't make them better or Vrabel, etc...
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Old 12-26-2008, 10:29 AM   #78
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A better team, than BEFORE they signed those guys. Nobody can argue Harrison didn't make them better or Vrabel, etc...
Exactly.

Of course guys they drafted like Tom Brady, Vince Wilfork, Richard Seymour, Matt Light, etc. were the main factors in their 3 super bowls and reaching another super bowl. I'm not arguing that the draft is not the main building block for a team. But free agency CAN be a big help in building a winner. Everybody is gun shy when it comes to free agency because for the most part Carl Peterson was a complete dumbass when it came to free agency. Well now he's gone and hopefully we find a viable replacement for him who knows how to properly use free agency.
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Old 12-26-2008, 10:40 AM   #79
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Old 12-26-2008, 10:56 AM   #80
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Hmmm, let's take a look at some free agents New England has signed in past years:

Rodney Harrison
Adalius Thomas
Roosevelt Colvin
Mike Vrabel
Corey Dillon
And personally I would count Randy Moss as a free agent signing. Yes he was a trade but it was a one year rental and then they had to shell out the big bucks to keep him or he would have left as a free agent.

Again, if you have an opportunity to add talent through free agency, why not do it? Is it our money being spent? Nope. As long as our free agency moves don't put us in cap hell, who cares if we go out and spend it? Cap room not being used is a waste. And if a free agent signing is a bust? Not our problem, because it's not our money. Again, as long as we are not put in cap hell or spend outrageous amounts like the Raiders or Redskins I don't see why fans would be against adding talent in free agency. My personal opinion is that you add talent to your team any way possible and through any means. That includes trades, free agency, and of course the draft.
How many of those were the top free agent for the year? Harrison had been cut by his former team. Dillon was considered at the end of his wasted career. Perhaps Colvin could be considered as such, but was injured in his first year. The Patriots didn't break the bank in FA, they signed wisely to fill needs. I am not opposed to adding free agents. I just don't think we need to believe that every guy we get is going to the Pro Bowl. We need players who will make us better. Many here are talking about getting the most expensive guys out there. They may come in with a lot of upside, but if they aren't more than a system player then they could have some huge downside.
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Old 12-26-2008, 11:00 AM   #81
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Does anybody else see Terrell Suggs as a guy not asked to do anything but rush the QB in a defense that has talent around him?
Sure, people who watch Sportscenter.
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Old 12-26-2008, 11:14 AM   #82
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Suggs is the only player we should consider. Other than that look at alot of tier 3 guys like the Darling types we signed this year. Some of those can hit big in the right situation. Other than I would hold out until 2010 or 2011.
Baltimore will tag Suggs and in order to keep him will let Lewis walk.
So you can forget that dream.
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Old 12-26-2008, 11:37 AM   #83
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Ray Lewis,

now please hear me out. Rays contract runs out this year and the Ravens must see that he is on his way out. Now what would a Ray Lewis to Kansas City trade meen for all parties?

- Ray, wants to become a NFLPA top (atleast I think so, he is a mentor to alot of kids in this league he has the reputation to have a long career in the NFLPA after he is done). Now what better thing then to join the team with the most rookies. What better thing to put on your resume then that you in your last years helped rebuild the youngest team in football. You reached out to the young players.

- The players, young players need guidence and coaching and there are some things the coaches just cant do. Who better then Ray Lewis to introduce them to the NFL and show them what its like to be professionals. This guy is already a mentor to alot of players to get his helping hand in the KC locker-room would be a stat that would defenatly be hard to meassure but surely beneficial.

- The coaches, first of all they will get a helping hand in teaching these young players the stuff thats beyond the x:es and the o:s. Ray also buildt the weight lifting culture in baltimore he is the guy you will see training day in and out and looking at his career young kids will take after that. And what KC is really trying to build is a winning culture. Ray is all about winning.

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Old 12-26-2008, 12:59 PM   #84
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Baltimore will tag Suggs and in order to keep him will let Lewis walk.
So you can forget that dream.
doubtful lewis walks, What about Bart Scott though? IIRC he's a FA also.
I personally would take ANY raven they ALL ARE ****ING HITTERS
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Old 12-26-2008, 01:18 PM   #85
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It's not even worth arguing about. You should add talent to your roster however you can get it but some idiots just don't see it.
If you take that rout then you can't fill your roster with much talent since every free agent gets a lot more money than they deserve. They after your draft picks do better they will think they deserve that kind of money. There is no problem getting free agents, you just can't go for the old guys who want big contracts. The young ones with big names will go to a good team, not the Chiefs.
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Old 12-26-2008, 08:44 PM   #86
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doubtful lewis walks, What about Bart Scott though? IIRC he's a FA also.
I personally would take ANY raven they ALL ARE ****ING HITTERS
Precisely. This defense lacks any kind of vet leadership on the field seeing Donnie was hurt all year. The draft will get us future players - very few immediate impact players. FA is less a crap shoot than the draft IMO. At least you know the guy can play in the NFL and you can scout him against top opponents. College players are tough to assess.

I agree, the $ issue with FA can be dicey. My bottom line is that defense needs someone to do for them what TG does for the offense.
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Bring in some guys that can get the job done and look to the draft for your superstars. Does anybody else see Terrell Suggs as a guy not asked to do anything but rush the QB in a defense that has talent around him?
Suggs is a monster against the run and can drop back in coverage. He's the complete package. Six year pro that is only 26? This guy could be the foundation for our D for another 6 years.
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Old 12-27-2008, 03:21 AM   #88
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I just want us to grab a FA pass rusher, then we could worry about something else in the draft because it doesn't always work out.
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Old 12-27-2008, 03:39 AM   #89
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If we're only going to go after one.....then I'll take Jason Brown. We can plug him in at center and move Niswanger over to RG (where he played decently IIRC). That leaves the RT position to fill. If Hunt is looking to spend some FA cash this offseason....then grab Brown and Suggs. Sign DeCosta from Baltimore to be our GM and then grab Jim Schwartz from the Titans to be our head coach.

Then hope and pray that Bradford declares for the draft and the Lions take him.

1st round - Matt Stafford - QB - Georgia
1st round - Brandon Spikes - MLB - Florida - Yes I know we're still rebuilding and you don't trade away draft picks.....but Spikes is a force and I feel would be worthwhile to trade back up into the 1st round and grab him. I'm not entirely sure what it would cost us to do it though.
3rd round - Fenuki Tupou - OT - Oregon

This is all just a pipe dream though.....and I'm still high on the Christmas spirit.
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