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Old 01-18-2009, 03:35 PM  
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Todd Haley bandwagon

He's my new favorite to be our next HC. He's part of the Parcells / Belichick coaching tree, and he's still available.

Young, aggressive offensive coordinator. Perfect for us.
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Old 01-19-2009, 12:15 PM   #106
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I don't doubt that it's important, but it's overrated. You can be a really solid fundamentals football coach even if you don't have outstanding football intelligence. But I think it's more important that the coach set the tone. He needs to demand hard-nose football, but let's face it--these days, the coordinators are the ones that are calling the plays and the assistant coaches are the ones working directly with the players. A head coach simply does not have enough arms, legs, and brains to individually coach everybody.

Now, I know football doesn't always copy the real world, but in the real world, the best managers are the ones that know how to delegate and know how to work with people. There are a ton of super-talented people who never succeed because they insist on taking everything themself because they don't trust others to do their job. And so, like any management position, the head coach's job isn't to sit down and write up creative plays and coach players individually himself. It is his job to make sure that all pieces of the team are operating well.

He has to know the X's and O's and he has to know fundamentals, but it's far more important that he know how to manage people who can do it.
I don't disagree with any particular thing you said. Most football coaches know enough Xs and Os to satisfy Pioli. Herm is one of those who does not.
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Old 01-19-2009, 12:16 PM   #107
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sounds like Gunther, but on offense...
See, that's what I am afraid of. I don't mind an animated emotional coach, but not a crazy one. I'm not saying Haley is the latter, but we have to be careful and thoroughly analyze him.
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Old 01-19-2009, 12:25 PM   #108
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I don't disagree with any particular thing you said. Most football coaches know enough Xs and Os to satisfy Pioli. Herm is one of those who does not.
Could be. I don't think Herm will be fired for the X's and O's, though. I think he'll be fired because he doesn't subscribe to the tough, hard-nosed, fundamentally flawless football that I'm sure Pioli wants to promote.

The key distinction is that you can find that mentality in a positions coach, even if they don't have the same X's and O's experience as coordinators.
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Old 01-19-2009, 12:54 PM   #109
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Old 01-19-2009, 12:59 PM   #110
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Haley has as much offensive talent in Arizona as almost anyone in the league.


would be a better indication of what he can do with LESS talent.
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