Chiefs Uh oh. Chiefs denied Lions permission to speak to Gunther... - Page 6

DaWolf · 01-20-2009, 04:06 PM

http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf...used_perm.html
Source: Lions were refused permission to talk to Gunther Cunningham
by Tom Kowalski
Tuesday January 20, 2009, 4:17 PM

MOBILE, Ala. -- According to a league source, the Lions were initially refused permission to talk to Kansas City defensive coordinator Gunther Cunningham about taking the same position with Detroit.

The Chiefs might be in a transition period with new general manager Scott Pioli deciding the fate of head coach Herm Edwards. According to the source, the Lions are waiting to see if the Chiefs will eventually grant Cunningham permission to talk to the Lions.

Lions head coach Jim Schwartz, who said he was going to take his time in putting together a staff, coached for three years with Cunningham when they were both with the Tennessee Titans. Schwartz has been busy at the Senior Bowl interviewing candidates for coordinator and assistant coaching jobs but, so far, no job has been filled.

Schwartz is expected to return to Detroit Wednesday evening and that's when he's expected to also interview many members of the Lions' current staff. Those Detroit coaches, who are all at the Senior Bowl, have been granted permission to seek jobs with other teams, but Schwartz reserves the right to refuse any possible deal and keep that coach with the Lions.

"Everything's just kind of up in the air,'' said one of Detroit's assistants.

"I'm optimistic and I'd like to stay in Detroit. We'll see what happens,'' said another assistant.

**cdcox** · 01-21-2009, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru

Ask DeezNutz about that.

And a couple of my recent posts. I'm afraid that putting smilies with them will dilute their impact ... but then lots of folks just totally miss the point and I get lots of

BS.

This place has really lost its burst. No joke.

When I read something stupid on the board, I look over at the avatar and have one of two reactions:

1) Geez, I should have know it is xxxxxx. Dude is absolutely clueless.

2)

yyyyy is at it again.

It's not really very hard to figure out which posters belong in group 1 and in group 2. Adding a smiley to your sarcasm is like adding a laugh track to you sitcom. Just say no.

bringbackmarty · 01-21-2009, 01:10 AM

The gist of this article "Initially" is that we have refused permission at least once for Cunningham to speak w det about their vacant D.C. Position.

That in and of itself looks bad for those who wish herm fired asap.

People like me, and you.

Mecca · 01-21-2009, 04:55 AM

The truth is no matter how well thought of Pioli is....if Gunther Cunningham and Herm Edwards are any part of the Chiefs next year this city from this forum to casual fan is going to be really pissed and say Pioli blows.

KCJohnny · 01-21-2009, 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

This place will go into full meltdown mode if Herm is retained for 09.

I'll be here for that momentous event should it occur...

milkman · 01-21-2009, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by PastorMikH

Yeah, but thankfully you're still here so at least I'm not the lamest.

Why, I oughta....

milkman · 01-21-2009, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by KCJohnny

I'll be here for that momentous event should it occur...

Stupidity is a great thing for ya isn't?

**Skip Towne** · 01-21-2009, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by PastorMikH

Yeah, but thankfully you're still here so at least I'm not the lamest.

Zing!!

**Skip Towne** · 01-21-2009, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by bringbackmarty

The gist of this article "Initially" is that we have refused permission at least once for Cunningham to speak w det about their vacant D.C. Position.

That in and of itself looks bad for those who wish herm fired asap.

People like me, and you.

And me

SenselessChiefsFan · 01-21-2009, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

The truth is no matter how well thought of Pioli is....if Gunther Cunningham and Herm Edwards are any part of the Chiefs next year this city from this forum to casual fan is going to be really pissed and say Pioli blows.

Pats fans were pissed when Belichick was hired. He was considered a failure, a retread and overly conservative.

Now, I do not make the comparison to suggest that Herm will ever be the caliber of coach that Belichick is.

I merely point out that Pioli comes from a franchise that doesn't care what the fans think. Remember the outcry from the cutting of Lawyer Milloy?

If Pioli wants to bring Herm back for whatever reason, he won't worry about the fans initial reaction. He knows that winning cures all.

Craqhead · 01-21-2009, 08:16 AM

http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=200771

strange how Gun is going too Detriot....

**Bob Dole** · 01-21-2009, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

Pats fans were pissed when Belichick was hired. He was considered a failure, a retread and overly conservative.

Now, I do not make the comparison to suggest that Herm will ever be the caliber of coach that Belichick is.

I merely point out that Pioli comes from a franchise that doesn't care what the fans think. Remember the outcry from the cutting of Lawyer Milloy?

If Pioli wants to bring Herm back for whatever reason, he won't worry about the fans initial reaction. He knows that winning cures all.

Just go ahead and admit you love Herm and move on.

chiefsngop · 01-21-2009, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefsngop

Nah. I got crazy belief in the guy and have completely ignored all the other disguised "dammit Pioli" BS roaming around this board.

I'm not going to knock on the guy for a long long time, and hope I never have to, but I'd love a logical explanation on this one....

I mean, it's lousy ass Gunther, for Christ's sakes...

Ok, for the life of me I couldn't figure it out.

But now I get it, the article was pretty much BS.

See ya Gunther !!

Extra Point · 01-21-2009, 11:02 AM

What would the FO have done, fired Cunningham, for having interviewed elsewhere? The Chiefs FO let go of the tether last week for Preifer and Gibbs, and did so with Gun on or before Monday.

Good luck, Gun. Your work with the self-appointed defensive guru, that looked over your shoulder at every turn, is done. Your time here had come and gone. Hope you find this message on the internet. (Wink, wink. Nudge, nudge.)

bringbackmarty · 01-21-2009, 11:04 AM

Yeah I didn't think it made much sense for us to refuse permission. Maybe they asked to interview him before we were eliminated from the playoffs in week 6, or whatever.

Kerberos · 01-21-2009, 01:04 PM

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/9...to-run-defense

ALLEN PARK, Mich. (AP) - New Detroit Lions coach Jim Schwartz made his first major staff hire Wednesday, bringing in veteran assistant Gunther Cunningham as defensive coordinator.

The two previously worked together as assistants on Jeff Fisher's staff in Tennessee. Schwartz was defensive coordinator under Fisher this past season, when the Titans posted an NFL-best 13-3 record with a defense that ranked second in points allowed.

Cunningham, a 40-year coaching veteran on the college and pro levels, was Kansas City's head coach from 1999-2000 and the Chiefs' defensive coordinator in 1995-98 and from 2004 through this past season.

He'll set about trying to fix one of the league's worst defenses, one of the big reasons Detroit didn't win a game last season.

Terms of his contract were not disclosed.

01-20-2009, 04:06 PM
DaWolf Cry havoc... Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10007725	Uh oh. Chiefs denied Lions permission to speak to Gunther... http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf...used_perm.html Source: Lions were refused permission to talk to Gunther Cunningham by Tom Kowalski Tuesday January 20, 2009, 4:17 PM MOBILE, Ala. -- According to a league source, the Lions were initially refused permission to talk to Kansas City defensive coordinator Gunther Cunningham about taking the same position with Detroit. The Chiefs might be in a transition period with new general manager Scott Pioli deciding the fate of head coach Herm Edwards. According to the source, the Lions are waiting to see if the Chiefs will eventually grant Cunningham permission to talk to the Lions. Lions head coach Jim Schwartz, who said he was going to take his time in putting together a staff, coached for three years with Cunningham when they were both with the Tennessee Titans. Schwartz has been busy at the Senior Bowl interviewing candidates for coordinator and assistant coaching jobs but, so far, no job has been filled. Schwartz is expected to return to Detroit Wednesday evening and that's when he's expected to also interview many members of the Lions' current staff. Those Detroit coaches, who are all at the Senior Bowl, have been granted permission to seek jobs with other teams, but Schwartz reserves the right to refuse any possible deal and keep that coach with the Lions. "Everything's just kind of up in the air,'' said one of Detroit's assistants. "I'm optimistic and I'd like to stay in Detroit. We'll see what happens,'' said another assistant.
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01-21-2009, 01:10 AM	#77
bringbackmarty Gonna go back in time.... Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $1285510	The gist of this article "Initially" is that we have refused permission at least once for Cunningham to speak w det about their vacant D.C. Position. That in and of itself looks bad for those who wish herm fired asap. People like me, and you. __________________ https://www.facebook.com/The-Pheasan...6018120266009/
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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-542950	The truth is no matter how well thought of Pioli is....if Gunther Cunningham and Herm Edwards are any part of the Chiefs next year this city from this forum to casual fan is going to be really pissed and say Pioli blows.
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Craqhead Huh Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: KC, Mo Casino cash: $10004900	http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=200771 strange how Gun is going too Detriot.... __________________
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Extra Point MVP Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Prairie Village, KS Casino cash: $10004900	What would the FO have done, fired Cunningham, for having interviewed elsewhere? The Chiefs FO let go of the tether last week for Preifer and Gibbs, and did so with Gun on or before Monday. Good luck, Gun. Your work with the self-appointed defensive guru, that looked over your shoulder at every turn, is done. Your time here had come and gone. Hope you find this message on the internet. (Wink, wink. Nudge, nudge.) __________________ "Sometimes I sits and thinks, and sometimes I just sits." --Satchel Paige
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01-21-2009, 11:04 AM	#89
bringbackmarty Gonna go back in time.... Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $1285510	Yeah I didn't think it made much sense for us to refuse permission. Maybe they asked to interview him before we were eliminated from the playoffs in week 6, or whatever. __________________ https://www.facebook.com/The-Pheasan...6018120266009/
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01-21-2009, 01:04 PM	#90
Kerberos Chiefs Baby Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Henderson, NV Casino cash: $10000632	http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/9...to-run-defense ALLEN PARK, Mich. (AP) - New Detroit Lions coach Jim Schwartz made his first major staff hire Wednesday, bringing in veteran assistant Gunther Cunningham as defensive coordinator. The two previously worked together as assistants on Jeff Fisher's staff in Tennessee. Schwartz was defensive coordinator under Fisher this past season, when the Titans posted an NFL-best 13-3 record with a defense that ranked second in points allowed. Cunningham, a 40-year coaching veteran on the college and pro levels, was Kansas City's head coach from 1999-2000 and the Chiefs' defensive coordinator in 1995-98 and from 2004 through this past season. He'll set about trying to fix one of the league's worst defenses, one of the big reasons Detroit didn't win a game last season. Terms of his contract were not disclosed.
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