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Old 11-10-2009, 01:08 AM  
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Get of Mark Castle's back!

First and foremost... I am no Cassel apologist but I am tired of reading posts just bashing Matt left and right.

Here are the numbers. And before I get started... **** all this "garbage time" bullshit. EVERY QB in the league has garbage time stats so let's not get too wrapped up in that. It's not like teams have replaced all their starters with 2nd and 3rd stringers at the end of games on us.

This is a statistical comparison of current QB's 2nd season as full time starters. Cassel, Ryan, & Flacco's stats are projected numbers of 16 games played in a season.

Pay special attention to the TD, INT, and Sack numbers.

Completions
Cassel - 286
Ryan - 312
Flacco - 366
Brady - 373
McNabb - 285
Rivers - 277

Attempts
Cassel - 514
Ryan - 514
Flacco - 564
Brady - 601
McNabb - 493
Rivers - 460

Completion Percentage
Cassel - 55.6
Ryan - 60.9
Flacco - 64.9
Brady - 62.1
McNabb - 57.8
Rivers - 60.2

Yards
Cassel - 2871
Ryan - 3568
Flacco - 4088
Brady - 3764
McNabb - 3233
Rivers - 3152

TDs
Cassel - 23
Ryan - 26
Flacco - 24
Brady - 23
McNabb - 25
Rivers - 21

INTs
Cassel - 11
Ryan - 20
Flacco - 14
Brady - 14
McNabb - 12
Rivers - 15

Sacks
Cassel - 62
Ryan - 24
Flacco - 32
Brady - 31
McNabb - 39
Rivers - 22

What I get out of the stats.

While Cassel could certainly stand to improve his completion percentage and total yardage, he is doing a damn fine job of producing in this ****tarded offense. His completion and total yardage stats have been killed due to the fact that the man has zero time to set up and find an open receiver as shown by the sack numbers. I would love to know the number of times each QB was hurried and forced to run but if the sack numbers are any indication, Cassel would nearly double the amount of any of the QB's listed in this comparison. His mobility has likely saved him from another dozen or so sacks at the halfway mark.

People dog Cassel for being unable to throw the deep ball. Hopefully that argument was squelched a bit after the long pass to Chambers today whom he hit in stride for a TD. It is amazing what a competent QB can do when he has a bit of time and a receiver with reliable hands & a touch of speed.

Lastly, and probably of most importance for a team like the Chiefs who are in transition on both sides of the ball, Cassel takes care of the damn ball while still throwing TD's. Cassel is on pace to throw fewer interceptions than any of the QB's listed in the comparison despite his o-line's inability to keep him on his feet. In fact, he has thrown interceptions in only 2 of his 7 games played so far this season. Oh yeah... and though he has been sacked more than any of the QB's listed he has yet to lose a fumble.

I don't know what more you want from the guy.

It's not his fault 3/5 of his offensive line would not start on ANY other team in the NFL.

Its not his fault that his coach is calling a limp dick game offensively.

Its not his fault that his featured RB averaged a whopping 2.7 yards per carry with 0 TDs prior to his suspension and release.

Its not his fault his receivers can't get open.

Its not his fault he is having to pick himself up off the ground on half the passing plays.

I'm not claiming that this guy will be the next Manning, Brees, or Brady. I'm saying this guy COULD be a solid QB for seasons to come if he only had some protection.

I like to bitch about the team as much as the next feller but let's bitch about the players that deserved to be bitched about.

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Old 11-12-2009, 03:05 PM   #301
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i think we all know that the hit as he threw stat has got to be bullshit., 8 times all year??? come on. more like 8 times a half
Seems like the mother****er got hit as he was throwing 8 times in the Dallas game alone.
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Old 11-12-2009, 03:16 PM   #302
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The issue is that you can't read like you're shopping for Cheerios and then you notice that the bag cereal on the bottom shelf is cheaper after spending too much time dawdling while listening to a Muzak version of Celine Dion through the store speakers when you're playing behind this line.
Thigpen had the excuse of being a midget for not being able to work the middle; Cassel does not.
Call me inexperienced, bold, or stupid, but I think the best move for the passing game right now is to limit his options target-wise, and make the other receivers play support to try and help get the ball where it needs to go.
In essence; THIS guy is the target. And we're either going to get it to HIM or throw it away.
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Old 11-12-2009, 04:06 PM   #303
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Old 12-06-2010, 11:43 PM   #304
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What a difference a year makes.

I'll admit, I lost faith for a bit there but I'm starting to believe again. Here are some updated comparisons with current leading qb's. All numbers are projected statistics over 16 games.

Completions
Cassel 09 - 271
Cassel 10 - 283
Brady - 343
Schaub - 344
Rivers - 363
P. Manning - 471

Attempts
Cassel 09 - 493
Cassel 10 - 472
Brady - 518
Schaub - 537
Rivers - 553
P. Manning - 712

Completion Percentage
Cassel 09 - 55.0
Cassel 10 - 59.9
Brady - 66.3
Schaub - 64.0
Rivers - 65.5
P. Manning - 66.1

Yards
Cassel 09 - 2924
Cassel 10 - 3337
Brady - 3932
Schaub - 4119
Rivers - 4856
P. Manning - 4945

TDs
Cassel 09 - 16
Cassel 10 - 31
Brady - 31
Schaub - 23
Rivers - 32
P. Manning - 32

INTs
Cassel 09 - 16
Cassel 10 - 5
Brady - 5
Schaub - 11
Rivers - 13
P. Manning - 20

Sacks
Cassel 09 - 42
Cassel 10 - 23
Brady - 22
Schaub - 35
Rivers - 39
P. Manning - 17
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I really wish you could get it through your pea-sized brain to realize it wasn't about "drafting a rookie." It was about drafting Mark Sanchez. Many, myself included, simply didn't think he was worth the pick. I still believe that.
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