Football Vince Young!!! - Page 3

Deberg_1990 · 11-29-2009, 06:11 PM

Is a Magician!!!

TEX · 11-29-2009, 11:34 PM

Living in Houston, I've seen Vince play since his Madison HS days. There was always "something" special about him. The guy is simply a winner. He has won at every level and has the uncanny ability to be at his best on the biggest of stages. He also has the ability to make those around him better. He's not conventional, but he has a way of seizing the moment and making the most of it. He'll also cause you to remember it. That guy definately has what it takes.

CoMoChief · 11-29-2009, 11:41 PM

I got the shit neg repd outa me when I said give him a chance to play and use his legs and he'd be successful, and it'd be stupid not to start him since they were 0-6, It's amazing how many people here jump ship once a young player hits a wall or starts playing bad.

Pioli Zombie · 11-30-2009, 06:51 AM

And its amazing how now he's Peyton Manning and "I always knew he was great". NOBODY was saying this 5 weeks ago. Not an announcer, not a writer, not a fan. NOBODY. This came outta nowhere. Its all Vince Youngs to enjoy. NOBODY can take credit for knowing shit because this guy didn't have a friend in the world 5 weeks ago. Hope they stick it to the Colts and go to the playoffs. A great story.
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Mile High Mania · 11-30-2009, 06:59 AM

Let's not get too crazy, before this week... VY was more bus driver than magician. This week, he did have one hell of a game though.

In TN's first 6 games... Chris Johnson had carries of 15, 16, 22, 16, 9 and 17.

In TN's last 5 games... Chris Johnson has carries of 24, 25, 26, 29 and 18. Johnson has 800 of his 1300 rushing yards during the last 5 games, as well as 168 of his 294 receiving yards and 7 of his 10 TDs. They've changed their focus a bit and regrouped as a team with the QB change. But, all that being said... Vince hasn't done anything to lose the games and he did play very well yesterday.

But, the 5-0 run isn't happening because of the QB switch on it own...

Tiger's Fan · 11-30-2009, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Let's not get too crazy, before this week... VY was more bus driver than magician. This week, he did have one hell of a game though.

In TN's first 6 games... Chris Johnson had carries of 15, 16, 22, 16, 9 and 17.

In TN's last 5 games... Chris Johnson has carries of 24, 25, 26, 29 and 18. Johnson has 800 of his 1300 rushing yards during the last 5 games, as well as 168 of his 294 receiving yards and 7 of his 10 TDs. They've changed their focus a bit and regrouped as a team with the QB change. But, all that being said... Vince hasn't done anything to lose the games and he did play very well yesterday.

But, the 5-0 run isn't happening because of the QB switch on it own...

No it's not. But you have to also include VYs timely runs and lack of turnovers. He's been the catalyst of their turnaround. And has been stated already, all the guy does is win.

Mile High Mania · 11-30-2009, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Buster Hymen

No it's not. But you have to also include VYs timely runs and lack of turnovers. He's been the catalyst of their turnaround. And has been stated already, all the guy does is win.

Well, there's a reason he was benched in the first place... he's not the next great thing at QB. And, yes... as long as he's not the primary option on offense, he is a winner.

Again, let's not confuse things... compare the first 6 games to the last 5 games, it's not even close as far as what they were asking Collins to do compared to Vince.

Through the first 6 - Collins completed 108 of 197 pass attempts for over 1,000 yards, 5 TDs and 8 INTs (that's what lost his job)

Through the last 5 - Young completed 56 of 89 for just over 600 yards, 5 TDs and 2 INTs. VY also has 40 rushes for 159 yards. Again, it's not the same offense and it's because Chris Johnson is a freak compared to the first half of the season and the young WRs like Britt are maturing.

FD · 11-30-2009, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Let's not get too crazy, before this week... VY was more bus driver than magician. This week, he did have one hell of a game though.

In TN's first 6 games... Chris Johnson had carries of 15, 16, 22, 16, 9 and 17.

In TN's last 5 games... Chris Johnson has carries of 24, 25, 26, 29 and 18. Johnson has 800 of his 1300 rushing yards during the last 5 games, as well as 168 of his 294 receiving yards and 7 of his 10 TDs. They've changed their focus a bit and regrouped as a team with the QB change. But, all that being said... Vince hasn't done anything to lose the games and he did play very well yesterday.

But, the 5-0 run isn't happening because of the QB switch on it own...

I'd be interested to see if their third down conversion rate has changed much. Watching the games, it seems like Vince is at his best on third down, running or passing just enough to convert. More first downs would translate into a lot more rushing attempts, better defensive performance, and greater time of possession.

Mile High Mania · 11-30-2009, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Forward Dante

I'd be interested to see if their third down conversion rate has changed much. Watching the games, it seems like Vince is at his best on third down, running or passing just enough to convert. More first downs would translate into a lot more rushing attempts, better defensive performance, and greater time of possession.

Hmmm... I don't know how to find those stats, they may be easy to find on NFL.com or PFR... not sure.

movinbones · 11-30-2009, 10:40 AM

I was there! Got a call on Friday that a buddy of mine got 4 tickets from his casino host. Pretty cool stadium... a lot like Heinz Field

**SAUTO** · 11-30-2009, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Well, there's a reason he was benched in the first place... he's not the next great thing at QB. And, yes... as long as he's not the primary option on offense, he is a winner.

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correct me if im wrong but, on a 99 yard drive that has 94 yards passing the QB would be the primary option, NO?

Mile High Mania · 11-30-2009, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

correct me if im wrong but, on a 99 yard drive that has 94 yards passing the QB would be the primary option, NO?

Ok, I said he played a great game yesterday... he had a hell of a drive and yes, he was a big part of that drive. But, to suggest that the 5-0 streak is all VY... that's a bit silly to me. Until yesterday, VY was a bus driver.

**The Franchise** · 11-30-2009, 12:28 PM

A backfield that has Vince Young and Chris Johnson is ****ing scary.....

Still....**** Vince Young. I started the Cardinals defense in FF this week.

**SAUTO** · 11-30-2009, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Ok, I said he played a great game yesterday... he had a hell of a drive and yes, he was a big part of that drive. But, to suggest that the 5-0 streak is all VY... that's a bit silly to me. Until yesterday, VY was a bus driver.

hey it all started with him being put in....

Pioli Zombie · 11-30-2009, 01:30 PM

Leinharts better. Mecca says so.
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11-29-2009, 11:34 PM	#31
TEX Out Gunning CP's Fandom Police Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Galveston, TX Casino cash: $-1256873	Living in Houston, I've seen Vince play since his Madison HS days. There was always "something" special about him. The guy is simply a winner. He has won at every level and has the uncanny ability to be at his best on the biggest of stages. He also has the ability to make those around him better. He's not conventional, but he has a way of seizing the moment and making the most of it. He'll also cause you to remember it. That guy definately has what it takes. __________________ "Do we have time to run WASP?"
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11-29-2009, 11:41 PM	#32
CoMoChief Mahomes Dynasty Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $7682254	I got the shit neg repd outa me when I said give him a chance to play and use his legs and he'd be successful, and it'd be stupid not to start him since they were 0-6, It's amazing how many people here jump ship once a young player hits a wall or starts playing bad.
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11-30-2009, 06:51 AM	#33
Pioli Zombie Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: olathe,kansas Casino cash: $10004900	And its amazing how now he's Peyton Manning and "I always knew he was great". NOBODY was saying this 5 weeks ago. Not an announcer, not a writer, not a fan. NOBODY. This came outta nowhere. Its all Vince Youngs to enjoy. NOBODY can take credit for knowing shit because this guy didn't have a friend in the world 5 weeks ago. Hope they stick it to the Colts and go to the playoffs. A great story. Posted via Mobile Device
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11-30-2009, 06:59 AM	#34
Mile High Mania #triggering Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Tejas Casino cash: $1067229	Let's not get too crazy, before this week... VY was more bus driver than magician. This week, he did have one hell of a game though. In TN's first 6 games... Chris Johnson had carries of 15, 16, 22, 16, 9 and 17. In TN's last 5 games... Chris Johnson has carries of 24, 25, 26, 29 and 18. Johnson has 800 of his 1300 rushing yards during the last 5 games, as well as 168 of his 294 receiving yards and 7 of his 10 TDs. They've changed their focus a bit and regrouped as a team with the QB change. But, all that being said... Vince hasn't done anything to lose the games and he did play very well yesterday. But, the 5-0 run isn't happening because of the QB switch on it own... __________________
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11-30-2009, 10:40 AM	#39
movinbones Starter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: O Fallon,MO Casino cash: $9994900	I was there! Got a call on Friday that a buddy of mine got 4 tickets from his casino host. Pretty cool stadium... a lot like Heinz Field
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11-30-2009, 12:28 PM	#42
The Franchise Most Valuable Villain Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $2075047	A backfield that has Vince Young and Chris Johnson is **ing scary..... Still....** Vince Young. I started the Cardinals defense in FF this week.
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11-30-2009, 01:30 PM	#44
Pioli Zombie Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: olathe,kansas Casino cash: $10004900	Leinharts better. Mecca says so. Posted via Mobile Device
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