Chiefs listing McCluster as a WR

[petegz28]

Just reported on 810

[milkman]

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

no, no, no!

According to the gurus Carr was outstanding...and every time he appeared to get torched it was really Mike Brown's fault...regardless of whether or not he was on the field.

Carr is what he is.

He's a small school player who's better suited to a cover two than a man defense, who still has potetential to grow, but who may never get the nuances of man cover.

But I don't believe that Javier Arenas is going to be all that either.

[eazyb81]

Originally Posted by Coach

Carr was a 6th rounder, if I am not mistaken.

Make no mistakes, Carr still has alot of room to improve, but from his 1st year to 2nd year, he has shown improvement.

But your corners are gonna get torched if you have your safties of John McGraw and Mike Brown.

What does Carr's draft round have to do with Arena starting over him?

Carr played above expectations his first year but definitely took a step back last year. I still have high hopes for him and in no way am I saying he sucks or to dump him, but I do think it's absurd for anyone to see his play last year and come to the conclusion that he has 0% chance to get beaten out as the starting CB by Arenas.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by kcrockaholic4life

That was really bad BossChief....

meh

I had two windows open and posted it in the wrong one.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by eazyb81

What does Carr's draft round have to do with Arena starting over him?

Carr played above expectations his first year but definitely took a step back last year. I still have high hopes for him and in no way am I saying he sucks or to dump him, but I do think it's absurd for anyone to see his play last year and come to the conclusion that he has 0% chance to get beaten out as the starting CB by Arenas.

Arenas isn't going to be our #2 CB, absolutely not. He'll be assigned more like as a nickel CB in passing downs and a specialist return man.

But at the same time, your corners (outside of Brandon Flowers) will look awful if they don't have the safeties to help them (of course, a consistent pass rush as well, but that's another story for another time). I mean, do you think your job would be easy if you have Mike Brown or John McGraw covering your ass?

I don't ****ing think so.

[OleMissCub]

Look, the guy was a starting RUNNING BACK in the SEC for 2 years, often getting 20-25 touches a game and played in 26 straight games. He's not going to snap in half like a twig at the first collision. Jesus.

Yes, he is small, but Dexter is a unique player. Try not to have such tunnel vision over 15 lbs. Just accept the guy for who he is and wait and see what he does.

[eazyb81]

Originally Posted by Coach

Arenas isn't going to be our #2 CB, absolutely not. He'll be assigned more like as a nickel CB in passing downs and a specialist return man.

But at the same time, your corners (outside of Brandon Flowers) will look awful if they don't have the safeties to help them (of course, a consistent pass rush as well, but that's another story for another time). I mean, do you think your job would be easy if you have Mike Brown or John McGraw covering your ass?

I don't ****ing think so.

I'll take that bet. Arenas most definitely can be the starter over Carr by the end of the year. Carr is solid but Arenas can certainly come in and challenge him for the starting job. Probably knows Crennel's defense better already than Carr.

Yes, of course shit safeties don't help CBs. But that doesn't explain away why teams picked on Carr and Leggett all year long and got away with it. It's not ALL the safeties, which is why Flowers didn't have a bad year.

Poor safety play hurt the CBs last year, but Arenas will still most likely be an upgrade over Carr.

[SenselessChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by milkman

Carr is what he is.

He's a small school player who's better suited to a cover two than a man defense, who still has potetential to grow, but who may never get the nuances of man cover.

But I don't believe that Javier Arenas is going to be all that either.

I like the Arenas pick. He will be a starter. Why? Because so many teams open the game in a three wide set. Is he going to be the starting R or L CB? Nope. Not the right size. But, he will be the top nickel back and will be very effective.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by eazyb81

I'll take that bet. Arenas most definitely can be the starter over Carr by the end of the year. Carr is solid but Arenas can certainly come in and challenge him for the starting job. Probably knows Crennel's defense better already than Carr.

Yes, of course shit safeties don't help CBs. But that doesn't explain away why teams picked on Carr and Leggett all year long and got away with it. It's not ALL the safeties, which is why Flowers didn't have a bad year.

Poor safety play hurt the CBs last year, but Arenas will still most likely be an upgrade over Carr.

Well, then another reason why our not so good corners got exposed quickly was becuase of a lack of a consistent pass-rush.

If the Chiefs had any kind of a pass-rush, the corners wouldn't be so badly exposed.

One way or another, with all the receivers that KC is going to be facing, I guess it doesn't hurt to have many DB's while you still can.

[Reaper16]

Carr had two poor games last year, 1 against San Diego and one against Denver. Gaffney toasted Flowers that game, too.

[MoreLemonPledge]

Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

I like the Arenas pick. He will be a starter. Why? Because so many teams open the game in a three wide set. Is he going to be the starting R or L CB? Nope. Not the right size. But, he will be the top nickel back and will be very effective.