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Old 07-23-2010, 03:19 PM  
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Bernard Pollard a predicted Pro Bowler!!

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Old 07-24-2010, 08:23 PM   #196
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pollard sucked in coverage and was an even worse tackler. he had two full years as a starter to prove himself and didn't. no team wanted to trade shit for him either. that combined with the fact that he is to much of a pussy to handle haley and there is really no debate.
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Old 07-24-2010, 08:35 PM   #197
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you can bash pioli for lots of things, but not pollard

the truth is almost everyone hated him and wanted him gone, and the archives make that clear....if you think pioli is a dumbass for cutting him, then you have to admit you're a dumbass too....


i mean literally there were 3-4 people who said we should keep pollard because he's going to get better.....

i can't even believe he keeps coming up...
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Old 07-24-2010, 08:36 PM   #198
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Old 07-24-2010, 09:42 PM   #199
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you can bash pioli for lots of things, but not pollard

the truth is almost everyone hated him and wanted him gone, and the archives make that clear....if you think pioli is a dumbass for cutting him, then you have to admit you're a dumbass too....


i mean literally there were 3-4 people who said we should keep pollard because he's going to get better.....

i can't even believe he keeps coming up...
This. Pioli deserves some bashing. Certainly not for this. It doesnt matter if Pendergast was using him incorrectly. That doesnt have shit to do with the fact that he couldnt tackle for shit.
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Old 07-24-2010, 11:03 PM   #200
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The fact that he is a better player than the crap we lined up at safety last year, regardless of his actual talent level is reason enough to bash Pioli.
Who says he was a better player, though?

There is the Pollard who had to deal with no team thinking he was worth a 7th round pick, getting cut, sitting at home for a month before anyone came calling, and who landed on a defense with more help around him. That Pollard might be a better player. But that isnt the Pollard we had.

We had the Pollard who, for 2008, got an overall rating of -16.1 from Profootballfocus. For 2009, Mike Brown had an overall rating of -9.9. Both are awful, but Pollards rating is noticeably worse.

Given his prior history and his disaster of a preseason, its not exactly crazy to suggest that, had he stayed in KC, Pollard would have played just as badly (if not worse) than Brown or any other safety that was here.
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Old 07-24-2010, 11:43 PM   #201
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I dont think Pollard is a pro-bowler at all. there is a lot of good strong safeties in the AFC that are much better such as Yeremiah Bell (MIA), Melvin Bullitt (IND), Jim Leonhard (NYJ), Troy Polamalu (PIT)*, Bob Sanders (IND)*, and hopefully Eric Berry (KC) as well


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Old 07-25-2010, 01:54 PM   #202
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YES!

Perhaps he can hire LJ to carry his G2 and tie his shoelaces at the Pro Bowl this year?
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Old 07-25-2010, 02:47 PM   #203
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Just to be clear, you do understand you could cherry pick any player with lowlights just as well as with highlights right?
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Old 07-25-2010, 02:57 PM   #204
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As I already stated, this wasn't cherry picking. This all happened IN ONE GAME. In THREE QUARTERS of one game.

Pollard was a shit player in Kansas City and did not appear to be changing based on the 2009 preseason.
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Old 07-25-2010, 03:51 PM   #205
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Just to be clear, you do understand you could cherry pick any player with lowlights just as well as with highlights right?
You do realize those were four missed tackles that should have been tackles?
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Old 07-25-2010, 05:25 PM   #206
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It means everything when they all come in THREE QUARTERS of a PRESEASON game.

It illustrates perfectly why he got cut.



No, he didn't. He sucked balls in 2008 and was rated as one of the worst safeties in the entire league. He missed 13 tackles. Only one safety missed more that year.
I can't believe people still beat the Pollard drum. I was so excited about him after draft day, and defended for a while, but damn, it's like people just overlook what the guy did week in, and week out.

I judge a player like this: Is he a liability? Yes he was. Everytime the ball left the QBs hands, I was worried whether Pollard would be out of position, whether he would whiff, or whether he would be too slow to react. He was a talented mofo, but I want players that I can count on. Period. You just could not count on the guy consistently enough.
The Texans had nobody at S. I have heard plenty of Texans fans say that they don't trust him in coverage either, and were pissed when they didn't address the position in the draft.
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