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View Poll Results: Should coaches have the option to challenge bad calls?
Yes, they should be allowed to challenge bad penality calls. 37 41.57%
No, they shouldn't and you are stupid to ask. 20 22.47%
Yes, they should... But the NFL will never allow them to. 38 42.70%
I have nothing to add. 5 5.62%
Don't know, I haven't watched football since my Gaz-stric bypass surgery. 1 1.12%
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Old 10-21-2010, 11:21 PM  
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Should penalties be able to be challenged in the NFL?

I've been going over last weeks game in my head this evening, and just had an off-hand thought about how that PI call would have turned out had Haley been able to challenge the penalty call. And tried to put myself on both sides of the argument for and against it. As well as just realizing the NFL would never just expose the referee's to such questioning.

When thinking it would be a good idea, I was going over how many league letters must go out weekly and how it would ultimately ensure the calls are correct on the field. The coaches are already able to kind of challenge a referee's decision by challenging ball spots and so forth. Getting everything right would be the pro's in this scenario, while a potentially longer game and bitter zebra's the con's...

When thinking against it, I came up with the argument that it wouldn't really change much anyway. While there are horribly blown calls week in and week out, generally they do not effect the outcome of a game anyway. The winners still find ways to overcome and win, and the losers do not. Most flags are judgment calls anyway, and the referee would tend to follow the judgment of his co-workers and not overturn many unless it was completely, 100%, entirely, extra-ordinarily terrible.

I dunno... I just know the NFL are prickly bitches when it comes to players and coaches criticizing their officials, yet there seems to be no real penalty for bad officiating except their score may go down, and they don't "make the playoffs"... I find that to be a little too lenient.

What say you planet? Good Idea? Bad Idea? Good Idea that will never happen anyway so why even discuss it?

I'm going to try to make a poll, but if it never comes...

That's because i'm too stupid to figure it out.
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Old 10-22-2010, 07:26 AM   #31
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I said yes but only with the stipulation that the number and type be extremely limited.
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Old 10-22-2010, 07:29 AM   #32
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They can't even make the correct call on a lot of plays that are currently reviewable.
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Old 10-22-2010, 07:53 AM   #33
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They can't even make the correct call on a lot of plays that are currently reviewable.
It's not that they can't; often, they just don't.

And thanks to our big ass HDTVs and slow motion replays, we KNOW exactly what they're doing wrong, because we're seeing the same thing they see.
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Old 10-22-2010, 07:58 AM   #34
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I said yes but only with the stipulation that the number and type be extremely limited.
You know when I first saw the topic I thought it was crazy.

But what if they didn't change anything and simply kept it to 3 challenges. Just challenge whatever you want.

I'm coming around to the idea.
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Old 10-22-2010, 08:08 AM   #35
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Rich Eisen asked Rich McKay on NFL Total Access yesterday, citing the BS helmet-to-helmet call against the Jets' Jim Leonard in Denver, a play in which the Jets challenged whether or not the catch was made.

On replay, there clearly was no helmet-to-helmet contact, but McKay's excuse is that it's a slippery slope: don't want to start reviewing judgment calls.

Only reviewable penalty is 12 men on the field.
The league needs to add a common scense factor to the 12 men on the field rule.
If a player is headed to the sidelines, and is oinly a couple of feet inbounds, miles awy from the play, with his back to the action, clearly not a factor in any way, that should be ignored.
Flagging a team in that sitiation is just ****ing stupid.

As to the original question, no, PI should not be reviewable.

However, since they **** it so often, and are more inconsistent with that than just about any other, the NFL needs to adopt the college rule, which only gives the the offense 15 yards, rather than a spot foul, because it is such a game changing penalty as it stands.

The other rule that needs to be changed is the defensive holding call.

Should be a 10 yard penalty, rather than 5 yards, but not an automatic first down.
That is a game changing penalty, as well.
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Old 10-22-2010, 09:36 AM   #36
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Old 10-22-2010, 09:43 AM   #37
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The league needs to add a common scense factor to the 12 men on the field rule.
If a player is headed to the sidelines, and is oinly a couple of feet inbounds, miles awy from the play, with his back to the action, clearly not a factor in any way, that should be ignored.
Flagging a team in that sitiation is just ****ing stupid.

As to the original question, no, PI should not be reviewable.

However, since they **** it so often, and are more inconsistent with that than just about any other, the NFL needs to adopt the college rule, which only gives the the offense 15 yards, rather than a spot foul, because it is such a game changing penalty as it stands.

The other rule that needs to be changed is the defensive holding call.

Should be a 10 yard penalty, rather than 5 yards, but not an automatic first down.
That is a game changing penalty, as well.
All of this.

I'm tired of seeing teams hurry up to the ball to snap it because they know that one of the defensive players isn't completely off of the field yet.
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Old 10-22-2010, 01:24 PM   #38
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I said yes but only with the stipulation that the number and type be extremely limited.
Holding and interference calls?
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So someone say again how big-league sports shouldn't have thorough replay via technical abilities instead of old ****s with bad eyesight? If the Rangers lose this game by a run and then lose Game 7? How the **** does the ump and crew NOT SEE THE ****ING BALL BOUNCE OFF HIS ****ING SHIN?!? Utter bullshit.
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Old 10-22-2010, 09:44 PM   #40
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You should get as many reviews as you need to improve the game... And, if you catch officials making more than two bads calls per game, you should be able to have them removed for cause (we'll call it "having a bad day evidently").. If it's able to be shown (QED!!!), then let it be so. Heck, I think if you can prove that some O limeman was holding on a play, you should be able to do it, and have the laundry thrown after the fact. Far too many TD's come after a hold. And if there's a hold on every play, then call it on every play - sooner or later they'll stop!!
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Old 10-22-2010, 09:44 PM   #41
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So someone say again how big-league sports shouldn't have thorough replay via technical abilities instead of old ****s with bad eyesight? If the Rangers lose this game by a run and then lose Game 7? How the **** does the ump and crew NOT SEE THE ****ING BALL BOUNCE OFF HIS ****ING SHIN?!? Utter bullshit.
Baseball is a game where replay would correct about 95%+ bad calls.

The idea that it would slow down the game is a joke.
It's already a slow game.

Install replay, put the pictcher on a clock, limit the number of times the catcher or other position players can visit the mound, keep the batter in the batter's box, limit pick off attempts, and you fix the game.
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Old 10-22-2010, 09:52 PM   #42
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Human error part of the game my ass... Just imagine a scenario that the Chiefs FINALLY make it back to the Superbowl. The opponents down by 5 with seconds on the clock and have to have a TD to win. The opponent goes for a bomb with Berry and Flowers in perfect coverage. The WR pushes off, scores the winning TD, and the flag's on us.... Yeah, I'de be ectatic that human error should be allowed to be part of the game. FUG that... If player screw up, they're fined or possibly cut. The ref's shouldn't be the exception to the rule.
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My vote points to Yes.

Why?, I've seen too many interference calls that shouldn't be.

I know this would make the game longer and we'd have another Coors Light commercial to sit through, yet the correct call would be made... fairly.
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My vote points to Yes.

Why?, I've seen too many interference calls that shouldn't be.

I know this would make the game longer and we'd have another Coors Light commercial to sit through, yet the correct call would be made... fairly.
The interference on Carr in the endzone was bullshit!!! The replay clearly showed Carr was being held and pushed to the ground. Hey Ref, that's offensive interference not defensive

Idiot mistakes by blind officials emphasizes my need for reviews on penalties.
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