Temper, temper, Gunther...

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

If you would read, I said part of the reason was Gunther's.

He had say on some draft picks and FA's that were brought here obviously.

He had say on some really pricey ones. Surtain, Bell, Sammy Knight, Carlos Hall. If you recall, they were on his shitty, shitty wish list. And then he turns around and drafts Siavii. To my understanding, those decisions were almost entirely Gunther's. Let's not pretend that Gun didn't have a very valuable opportunity to bring in talent and completely whiffed.

But he inherited many players from a defense that was among the leagues worse.....ever. You need good players to succeed in this league, that fact has never changed. We weren't able to have that here in KC because DV and Carl sold their souls to amp up our offense at the expense of having no defense.

That's a load of bullshit. The Chiefs were one of the worst defenses in the NFL last year by a lot. Today they are good enough and sometimes very good this season and the only move they made was bringing in Eric Berry. He's good but you can't tell me one guy turned that whole thing around. And the talent Romeo has is not better than the talent Gunther had. And when Gunther came in, the front office flooded him with talent. They gave him a blank check in '04, used the majority of 1st and 2nd round picks on defensive players... He had more than enough opportunities. Part of coaching is the ability to recognize talent so you can a) bring them in; b) put them in a good position to make plays; c) make sure the good players see playing time over the bad. Gun had no concept of that. The other part is coaching his players up. Gun whiffed on both accounts.

They didn't want to stop people as opposed to challenging other teams to keep up with us on the scoreboard.....well, that didn't work, but they didn't care. You know why? Because they're both at the end of their careers, they were both getting ready to retire. After DV left this team was left with nothing, we didn't have any up and coming stars except a few, our best player wanted to be traded to a winner (TG) and not go through another "rebuilding" process, if you'd even call it that. We wouldn't have gone 2-14, 4-12, 4-12 the last 3 seasons or so had DV cared about the draft while he was here.

DJ, Dorsey, and Hali are a million times better now that Gun has left. DJ is a pretty glaring sign of why Gun was a joke. He had an uber-talented player and could never get anything out of him. He moved him from outside to inside. Fired his LBs coach. Insisted on coaching the guy himself. Nothing.

Guess what? Gary Gibbs and Romeo have him playing at 10x the level he played under Gun.

If that doesn't make sense to you then look no further to the amount of DV's draft picks/FA's that are still on this team. I can think of only 4, one of which played most of his career in Indy then came back home (Lilja) and another is a ****ing Punter....(whoopdee ****in doo). That leaves a declining Brian Waters and Derrick Johnson, who is FINALLY starting to shine after 5 seasons.

Brian Waters
Ryan Lilja
Derrick Johnson
Dustin Colquitt

That's only 4 players.....out of 9 seasons. Like I said before, Gunther was part of the decision making I'm sure, in bringing some players into KC/draft picks etc....but he was inherited with crap. Sure people say in the mid-90's he succeeded because of DT, N.Smith, Carter, Hasty, Collins, Saleamua. But you need talent. I can't think of any good DC that can succeed and field a really good defense with crap players.

Romeo is making it work despite serious talent shortages at Nose Tackle, inconsistent play at DE, an average ILB, and a lackluster free safety, as well as really shitty depth. He's doing it by getting the right players on the field, creative adjustments (e.g. 2-4 defense), in-game adjustments, and coaching players up.

Gun, on the other hand, never made in-game adjustments, had the same shitty predictable scheme with blitzes and corners playing 15 yards off the receiver, had players that couldn't tackle and played without heart or discipline, and during his tenure the ONLY player that really got any better under his watch was Jared Allen. One player.

But of course, it's all about the players.