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Old 03-01-2011, 07:38 PM  
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Would you pay a 2nd for Steve Smith, WR NYG?

He has a 2nd round tender, do you think he's worth it?
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Old 03-03-2011, 11:08 AM   #16
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How many starting qbs do you get in the second round?
Very few.

Which is why you probably shouldn't be wasting 2nd round picks on them.
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Old 03-03-2011, 11:21 AM   #17
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Sure I would.

We arent talking a high second here, guys. We are talking a late second for a good player that demands the opposing defense to account for him every play.
But, but, but....he's not drafted by us!

So clearly he's 30 years old and has no value.

Lord, the 'value' of draft picks has become so overstated as to be absurd. The guy is 26 years old and put up an absolutely elite season his 2rd year in the league (breakout year for WRs). Last year he was on a similar pace until his injury.

Granted, you can't discount the injury altogether, but I'm betting they have a doctor or two on staff. Have him looked at to determine if he's sound. If so, the odds of us doing anything with that pick that would be as useful as Steve Smith are pretty damn remote (even if you actually have faith that Pioli isn't going to draft another midget scat-back or glorified punt returner).

Unless the Cardinals come offering Larry Fitzgerald for a viable price, I'd absolutely give a 2nd for Smith.
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Old 03-03-2011, 12:05 PM   #18
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I'd give our third for Smith. A second for a guy coming off of a procedure like microfracture, which is really a two year injury, and the most serious injury a skill position player could have that isn't related to their spinal column, is not something that should be underestimated.
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Old 03-03-2011, 12:14 PM   #19
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Whether you like Cassel or not, he went to the Pro Bowl after last season. He was much better than most of the sad sacks on this board predicted. McCluster got hurt, but was the talk of the league before that happened. He was a strong pick where we got him...a difference maker. And what's your bitch with Arenas? He wasn't good enough on returns for you? He worked his way into the defensive backfield as well later in the season and played well.

What the hell?
I'm not sold on Cassel or McCluster yet, but I don't know why anyone would have a problem with Javier Arenas. He played very well last year.
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Old 03-04-2011, 10:23 AM   #20
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I would give our mid/late 2nd for him if healthy, but not off this procedure. That moves down to 3rd in negotiations. Would the Gints take that, probably not, but that's what we'd have to stick with, imo.

Do take a close look at his game tho, this procedure is not as damaging to his value given his forte - short routes in the middle of the field. Having a consistent guy like that would do wonders for Cassel, and Bowe, and would keep things open a bit more for Mo too.
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Old 03-04-2011, 10:26 AM   #21
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KC should give him a physical the next few weeks. It would be a draft day decision for me depending on who was still available, and the status of his injury.

He's a better value than Arenas and McCluster.
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Old 03-04-2011, 10:33 AM   #22
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I'd give up a 2nd.....for Steve Smith and their 4th.
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