If this happens, your opinion of Pioli would be...

[AustinChief]

OK let's say Pioli is NOT convinced that Cassel is the only QB for us but can't work out a trade UP for RGIII or Luck. He looks at the free agents and decides they are stop gaps at best. SO...

He either trades way DOWN in the first round and picks a QB (slight reach) or he takes a QB in the second round.

Would that significantly change your opinion of Pioli?

(polli to follow)

[milkman]

Originally Posted by JCharles1981

That's a HUGE "if." I'd be hard pressed to assume that both RGIII and Luck will be available for pick-up after the 5th and 6th picks in the first round.



Say all you want. But, having a 7-9 record doesn't guarantee a great shot at one of the best rookie prospect QB's in the draft. Either way, I am not embracing Pioli until the Chiefs have at least made it to the AFC Championship round of the playoffs, which they haven't done since 1994. They need to win a playoff game before many of us can say anything positive about Pioli.

Winning one's division (10-6), and then choking in the AFC wildcard game isn't much improvement when the franchise has been win-less in the playoffs since 1995. The Chiefs should have Marty Schottenheimer as the Offensive Coordinator, someone similar to Todd Haley as the Offensive Line Coach, and maybe John Gruden as the Defensive Coordinator (this is just a hypothesis). Some might hate, but the Chiefs have yet to win in the playoffs since Schottenheimer's departure in the late 90's.

Chiefs last made it to the AFC Championship in '93, not '94.

They last won a playoff game in '93, not '95.

I have no idea wht the hell you're talking about with Marty, Haley and Gruden.

Do you ever watch football?

[milkman]

Originally Posted by JCharles1981

Let's see if your statement holds up:

2009

Scott Pioli hired as Chiefs' new General Manager in 2009, brought in former Patriots Defensive Coordinator Romeo Cremmel to be the Chiefs' new DC, and former Arizona Cardinals OC as Head Coach. Haley fired pre-season OC just before the 2009-2010 season began; did double duty as Head Coach and Offensive Coordinator.

Result: Chiefs finished at 4-12.

2010

Scott Pioli appointed former Notre Dame Head Coach Charlie Weis as the Chiefs' new Offensive Coordinator, kept Haley as Head Coach and Crennel as DC.

Result: Chiefs finished at 10-6, winning the AFC West. Unfortunately, they were upset by the Colts in the first round of the playoffs.

2011

After Weis moved to Miami to coach college football again, Pioli approved Todd Haley's decision to hire Mike Muir to be the Chiefs' third regular season offensive coordinator in four years (not counting the year Todd Haley was both the HC and OC). Prior to the regular season, Muir had not called an offensive play professionally.

Result: Chiefs finished at 7-9, with 8 of those losses being under HC Todd Haley. Despite their efforts in defeating the Broncos in week 17, it wasn't enough to knock them out of the playoffs since the Raiders lost their final season game in the process.

Final Review: Scott Pioli has tons of improving before showing himself worthy of being a better GM than Carl Peterson.

In this post, and the previous post I quoted, I believe that you managed to get one fact correct.

Every other "fact" is wrong.

You may have been a fan longer than most have been alive, but I think your brain cells died before many of these guys were born.

Get help.

[Fritz88]

Originally Posted by JCharles1981

Let's see if your statement holds up:

2009

Scott Pioli hired as Chiefs' new General Manager in 2009, brought in former Patriots Defensive Coordinator Romeo Cremmel to be the Chiefs' new DC, and former Arizona Cardinals OC as Head Coach. Haley fired pre-season OC just before the 2009-2010 season began; did double duty as Head Coach and Offensive Coordinator.

Result: Chiefs finished at 4-12.

2010

Scott Pioli appointed former Notre Dame Head Coach Charlie Weis as the Chiefs' new Offensive Coordinator, kept Haley as Head Coach and Crennel as DC.

Result: Chiefs finished at 10-6, winning the AFC West. Unfortunately, they were upset by the Colts in the first round of the playoffs.

2011

After Weis moved to Miami to coach college football again, Pioli approved Todd Haley's decision to hire Mike Muir to be the Chiefs' third regular season offensive coordinator in four years (not counting the year Todd Haley was both the HC and OC). Prior to the regular season, Muir had not called an offensive play professionally.

Result: Chiefs finished at 7-9, with 8 of those losses being under HC Todd Haley. Despite their efforts in defeating the Broncos in week 17, it wasn't enough to knock them out of the playoffs since the Raiders lost their final season game in the process.

Final Review: Scott Pioli has tons of improving before showing himself worthy of being a better GM than Carl Peterson.

What team are you talking about?
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