Chiefs My thoughts on the game last night - Page 8

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 07:28 AM

There were a few spots that I look back too and think that we did ourselves in. First off, the guys came out nervous as a mother****er and made some silly mistakes. LOTS of dropped passes early on (Avery anyone?) that could've and would've changed the momentum and feel of the game right out of the gate. You come out fired up, and not scared and who knows how the game plays out right from the start?

Why on Earth would we want to put the ball in the hands of the weakest unit of our team to start a game? Win the toss, defer and let your ****ing defense try to create some field position for you to start the game. Use your strengths to your advantage! Get the ****ing crowd out of it a tad with a big 3 and out to open the game, and try to put yourself in a position to have a 60 yard field instead of an 80 yard field with the crowd in full throat. I know the crowd would've been loud anyways, but seriously, who here wouldn't have played D to start off with the choice?

Turning the ball over directly after creating a redzone opportunity for ourselves was the beginning of the end and none of us really knew it at the time. Talk about shooting yourselves in the foot. We've talked all year how unpredictable turnovers are, and we all know this team was 9-0 directly because of their abilities to not only create those opportunities, but the fact that we were very good at protecting the ball. It was a fluke deal, and completely out of the blue, but the timing was pitiful and deflated our entire offense. Between the drops and that untimely fumble, I never saw any fire out of our offense the rest of the night. I mean there wasn't much before, but that completely took the sail out of our winds.

Kicking an 18 yd FG in Denver, against Peyton Manning. Uhh, what? Who the **** does that? Take your ****ing chances and pound that ball up their asses for the 4th straight time! I was livid over that last night. I know in a lot of situations when you have a defense like ours, and more importantly an offense like ours, you have to take points anytime you can get them. Not against a goddamned record setting offense like Peyton's Broncos. You have to score TD's when you're inside the ****ing 5, and you have to be willing to do whatever it takes to get them. I would've rather flamed out right there, and at least went after it. We knew we were giving up more than 17 last night. My thoughts the whole week was to hold them under 30 and create some opportunities on offense. That one swing would've made the game 27-21 with 5 minutes left to play.

Demps totally had a read on the pass he jumped, and he should've taken that ball to the house. He flat out missed it, and it cost us. That would've shifted the momentum to us, and fired up our front 7 coming right back on the field. That one play alone, while there were a few that were gamechangers, was the one that I think would have won us the game had we made it. We had a lot of our own shortcomings to overcome, but had he made that play I honestly think we win the game. Not gonna ride the young man too much here, I think he made a good play on the ball and I'm impressed he read it so perfectly, but you have to convert on those rare golden opportunities.

If Jamaal Charles breaks that carry and doesn't stumble, he goes to the house. No one was going to catch him. I will never give him shit for stumbling on a play, because most of the time he will take that ball to the house. It is however a Goddamned shame that the one time he flubs up is in primetime, on the road in Denver in the biggest game of their lives because that was another turning point where we didn't capitalize. Does anyone think he gets caught if he keeps his feet and momentum running down the sidelines?

If any one of us had been told we would hold Denver to under 30 points we would've taken it, and ran with it. What if we were told we could hold them to 20? I blame the last TD they scored on some of the shittiest, most vanilla play calling I've ever seen in a big game like this in the 3rd quarter last night. Our D is holding them to consecutive 3 and outs and we can't get any kind of game going at all. Just a couple of first downs in that stretch and our D probably doesn't let Peyton slice through us like a stick of butter to end the 3rd quarter. And that was the game changer. Yeah, the FG that made it a 3 possession game put the nail in our coffin, but having multiple opportunities to go and tie the game up, or at least pull us within 4 would've been a huge lift to the D and kept them playing inspired defense.

All in all, this game wasn't even close. They handled us in their house on primetime television. But they didn't blow us out. And they didn't beat us nearly as much as we beat ourselves. Things aren't always going to go your way, and you won't get all the bounces like we had in every game leading up to last night. It felt like all of it caught up with us. How these guys respond next week back at home will make a big statement on what our playoff chances look like, and whether or not we can snap the playoff losing streak. That's my biggest deal. I really didn't expect to make the playoffs this year, and if we can just win a damned playoff game I will call the whole season a miracle. That said, if we continued doing what we had done all year, and capitalized on other team's mistakes, and our own opportunities, we all wake up feeling amazing about our 10-0 team.

The rematch in KC is going to be a HUGE game and the entire Nation will be tuned in again. We still control our own destiny, and even though we weren't close last night, I still feel better about this team than I honestly thought I was going too this morning. They have the ability, and talent to make a pretty good run in the playoffs. We all know how they respond this week however is going to dictate how the rest of the season and that run goes though. Watching a team react to it's first loss is always interesting. Having it come this late in the year is the difference between a Super Bowl run, and an epic collapse. We've seen both in the NFL in recent years, I'll be curious how this Chiefs team plays out. We could easily go down in history either way...

Edit: 1 more thing. I'm not jumping Marcus Cooper's shit. Someone on this defense has given up a long play every single week it seems like. Last night he gave up a couple of big plays. Not the end of the world, and he's still overachieving like a mother****er. His entire season, and acquisition feels like a huge gift. Let's not get down on him too much considering who he is, the role he plays, and how he's done as a whole up to this point. He has a big future ahead of him in red and gold.

**Dartgod** · 11-19-2013, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan

Donks should be proud-they had to have the NFl fix the game for them and cheat every single second on offense to be able to beat us. But a win is a win guys-so Great job!

I am surprised they didn't break out the cooking spray like during their Super Bowl runs-hell they did everything else to cheat and win. Pushing off on Cooper for a TD, Holding on Bowe on a big 3rd down that could have made some big yards, holding our D every freakin play, illegal pick plays, they had the refs call a penalty every big play we had.

I would have to go back to the Faders of the 70's to find a team that cheats more than the Donks. They really are a DISGRACE to the sport. Donks are the real FRAUDS and the nfl is letting them do it for the money.

Karma is a bitch and it will come back on them.

We got beat by a better team. Get over it.

TEX · 11-19-2013, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Dartgod

We got beat by a better team. Get over it.

You know what? That's true - they were better on that night and I'm surprised the Chiefs hung in there and actually had a legit shot to win it. However, to the impartial fan, the underlying message of Halfcan's post has some sort of merit.

I live in Houston - where a non biased audience for this game - and the sports radio shows were all talking about "the fix" in jest of course but they all said that it appeared that "something" was up regarding all the big calls going against KC at the most critical times. 950AM went on and on about the officiating and the non call on the big 3rd down pass play to Bowe claiming that you gotta make that call or redefine defensive holding. Rich Lord on 610 AM said he couldn't count how many times #91 was held trying to get to Manning. Nick Wright on 610AM (yes, the one and the same) said it as well and added he feels even more so since it appeared that after the fact, the officials went overboard and started flagging Denver to make it look like it was evenly called both ways. He said difference was, when it mattered, the flags went against KC. To a man, they all saw it as being an extremely poor officiated game. The overwhelming majority of fans that called in saw it as Halfcan did as well. They can't all be wrong...Just saying.

Oh - and the fat checker dude at Walmart told me so as well...

**The Franchise** · 11-19-2013, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX

You know what? That's true - they were better on that night and I'm surprised the Chiefs hung in there and actually had a legit shot to win it. However, to the impartial fan, the underlying message of Halfcan's post has some sort of merit.

I live in Houston - where a non biased audience for this game - and the sports radio shows were all talking about "the fix" in jest of course but they all said that it appeared that "something" was up regarding all the big calls going against KC at the most critical times. 950AM went on and on about the officiating and the non call on the big 3rd down pass play to Bowe claiming that you gotta make that call or redefine defensive holding. Rich Lord on 610 AM said he couldn't count how many times #91 was held trying to get to Manning. Nick Wright on 610AM (yes, the one and the same) said it as well and added he feels even more so since it appeared that after the fact, the officials went overboard and started flagging Denver to make it look like it was evenly called both ways. He said difference was, when it mattered, the flags went against KC. To a man, they all saw it as being an extremely poor officiated game. The overwhelming majority of fans that called in saw it as Halfcan did as well. They can't all be wrong...Just saying.

JMO....but almost all of the games have had horrible officiating.

TEX · 11-19-2013, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

JMO....but almost all of the games have had horrible officiating.

They do and many callers said that as well. However, the overwhelming majority felt that the officiating in this one was extraordinarily so.

One guy even said he had been pulling for Denver, but after the Bowe non call, he started pulling for KC. He said they were getting jobbed, "like the Oilers used to when they would play Dallas in Dallas." I remember those games! LOL!

**Dartgod** · 11-19-2013, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX

You know what? That's true - they were better on that night and I'm surprised the Chiefs hung in there and actually had a legit shot to win it. However, to the impartial fan, the underlying message of Halfcan's post has some sort of merit.

I live in Houston - where a non biased audience for this game - and the sports radio shows were all talking about "the fix" in jest of course but they all said that it appeared that "something" was up regarding all the big calls going against KC at the most critical times. 950AM went on and on about the officiating and the non call on the big 3rd down pass play to Bowe claiming that you gotta make that call or redefine defensive holding. Rich Lord on 610 AM said he couldn't count how many times #91 was held trying to get to Manning. Nick Wright on 610AM (yes, the one and the same) said it as well and added he feels even more so since it appeared that after the fact, the officials went overboard and started flagging Denver to make it look like it was evenly called both ways. He said difference was, when it mattered, the flags went against KC. To a man, they all saw it as being an extremely poor officiated game. The overwhelming majority of fans that called in saw it as Halfcan did as well. They can't all be wrong...Just saying.

Oh - and the fat checker dude at Walmart told me so as well...

Despite all that, we had a great chance to win the game if we do the following:

Punch it in on first and goal from the 2, or better yet, fat Jeff Allen gets out and blocks the screen where Davis was down at the 2. Easy touchdown if he does his job.
Don't turn the ball over right after the D recovered the fumble at the Denver 18.
Alex Smith doesn't take the killer sack right before halftime.

**Rausch** · 11-19-2013, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Dartgod

We got beat by a better team. Get over it.

This.

We fix our problems and get better or we don't...

TEX · 11-19-2013, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Dartgod

Despite all that, we had a great chance to win the game if we do the following:

Punch it in on first and goal from the 2, or better yet, fat Jeff Allen gets out and blocks the screen where Davis was down at the 2. Easy touchdown if he does his job.
Don't turn the ball over right after the D recovered the fumble at the Denver 18.
Alex Smith doesn't take the killer sack right before halftime.

Oh I agree. That's why I said that I was surprised that they hung in there. The indeed had a CHANCE to win it had they played better.

There's a great picture of Tamba in a choke hold, right in front of the ref on the "Bill Mass Fix Thread." Just blows my mind how that call and others exactly like it were not made. Hard not to feel some sort of negative emotion when you see it.

BlackHelicopters · 11-19-2013, 02:02 PM

Refs were on Denver -8.5.

**Rausch** · 11-19-2013, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop

Refs were on Denver -8.5.

Refs were ****ing terrible.

On both sides...

**Dartgod** · 11-19-2013, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

Refs were ****ing terrible.

On both sides...

In every game...

FYP

11-18-2013, 07:22 AM
Mr. Flopnuts FINALLY! The wait is over. Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The Future Is Now!!! Casino cash: $19947565	My thoughts on the game last night There were a few spots that I look back too and think that we did ourselves in. First off, the guys came out nervous as a mother**er and made some silly mistakes. LOTS of dropped passes early on (Avery anyone?) that could've and would've changed the momentum and feel of the game right out of the gate. You come out fired up, and not scared and who knows how the game plays out right from the start? Why on Earth would we want to put the ball in the hands of the weakest unit of our team to start a game? Win the toss, defer and let your ing defense try to create some field position for you to start the game. Use your strengths to your advantage! Get the ing crowd out of it a tad with a big 3 and out to open the game, and try to put yourself in a position to have a 60 yard field instead of an 80 yard field with the crowd in full throat. I know the crowd would've been loud anyways, but seriously, who here wouldn't have played D to start off with the choice? Turning the ball over directly after creating a redzone opportunity for ourselves was the beginning of the end and none of us really knew it at the time. Talk about shooting yourselves in the foot. We've talked all year how unpredictable turnovers are, and we all know this team was 9-0 directly because of their abilities to not only create those opportunities, but the fact that we were very good at protecting the ball. It was a fluke deal, and completely out of the blue, but the timing was pitiful and deflated our entire offense. Between the drops and that untimely fumble, I never saw any fire out of our offense the rest of the night. I mean there wasn't much before, but that completely took the sail out of our winds. Kicking an 18 yd FG in Denver, against Peyton Manning. Uhh, what? Who the does that? Take your ing chances and pound that ball up their asses for the 4th straight time! I was livid over that last night. I know in a lot of situations when you have a defense like ours, and more importantly an offense like ours, you have to take points anytime you can get them. Not against a goddamned record setting offense like Peyton's Broncos. You have to score TD's when you're inside the ing 5, and you have to be willing to do whatever it takes to get them. I would've rather flamed out right there, and at least went after it. We knew we were giving up more than 17 last night. My thoughts the whole week was to hold them under 30 and create some opportunities on offense. That one swing would've made the game 27-21 with 5 minutes left to play. Demps totally had a read on the pass he jumped, and he should've taken that ball to the house. He flat out missed it, and it cost us. That would've shifted the momentum to us, and fired up our front 7 coming right back on the field. That one play alone, while there were a few that were gamechangers, was the one that I think would have won us the game had we made it. We had a lot of our own shortcomings to overcome, but had he made that play I honestly think we win the game. Not gonna ride the young man too much here, I think he made a good play on the ball and I'm impressed he read it so perfectly, but you have to convert on those rare golden opportunities. If Jamaal Charles breaks that carry and doesn't stumble, he goes to the house. No one was going to catch him. I will never give him shit for stumbling on a play, because most of the time he will take that ball to the house. It is however a Goddamned shame that the one time he flubs up is in primetime, on the road in Denver in the biggest game of their lives because that was another turning point where we didn't capitalize. Does anyone think he gets caught if he keeps his feet and momentum running down the sidelines? If any one of us had been told we would hold Denver to under 30 points we would've taken it, and ran with it. What if we were told we could hold them to 20? I blame the last TD they scored on some of the shittiest, most vanilla play calling I've ever seen in a big game like this in the 3rd quarter last night. Our D is holding them to consecutive 3 and outs and we can't get any kind of game going at all. Just a couple of first downs in that stretch and our D probably doesn't let Peyton slice through us like a stick of butter to end the 3rd quarter. And that was the game changer. Yeah, the FG that made it a 3 possession game put the nail in our coffin, but having multiple opportunities to go and tie the game up, or at least pull us within 4 would've been a huge lift to the D and kept them playing inspired defense. All in all, this game wasn't even close. They handled us in their house on primetime television. But they didn't blow us out. And they didn't beat us nearly as much as we beat ourselves. Things aren't always going to go your way, and you won't get all the bounces like we had in every game leading up to last night. It felt like all of it caught up with us. How these guys respond next week back at home will make a big statement on what our playoff chances look like, and whether or not we can snap the playoff losing streak. That's my biggest deal. I really didn't expect to make the playoffs this year, and if we can just win a damned playoff game I will call the whole season a miracle. That said, if we continued doing what we had done all year, and capitalized on other team's mistakes, and our own opportunities, we all wake up feeling amazing about our 10-0 team. The rematch in KC is going to be a HUGE game and the entire Nation will be tuned in again. We still control our own destiny, and even though we weren't close last night, I still feel better about this team than I honestly thought I was going too this morning. They have the ability, and talent to make a pretty good run in the playoffs. We all know how they respond this week however is going to dictate how the rest of the season and that run goes though. Watching a team react to it's first loss is always interesting. Having it come this late in the year is the difference between a Super Bowl run, and an epic collapse. We've seen both in the NFL in recent years, I'll be curious how this Chiefs team plays out. We could easily go down in history either way... Edit: 1 more thing. I'm not jumping Marcus Cooper's shit. Someone on this defense has given up a long play every single week it seems like. Last night he gave up a couple of big plays. Not the end of the world, and he's still overachieving like a mother*er. His entire season, and acquisition feels like a huge gift. Let's not get down on him too much considering who he is, the role he plays, and how he's done as a whole up to this point. He has a big future ahead of him in red and gold. Last edited by Mr. Flopnuts; 11-18-2013 at 07:28 AM..*
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