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Old 02-25-2014, 10:58 AM  
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Panthers' LT Jordan Gross will retire (B.Albert is gonna get PAID)
Another NFL hole at LT. Add one more team that'll be looking at B.Albert...

The Panthers have been clearing salary cap space this week, but they won’t need any of it for left tackle Jordan Gross.

Joseph Person of the Charlotte Observer reports that Gross has decided to retire rather than return for a 12th NFL season. An official announcement is expected to come on Wednesday.

Gross was set to become a free agent next month, but said at the end of last season that he would either play for the Panthers or no one. Gross, the eighth pick of the 2003 draft, was a three-time Pro Bowl selection and made the AP All-Pro team after the 2008 season.

His retirement leaves a big hole for the Panthers to fill on the offensive line as Gross was still playing at a high level in 2013 without much reason to expect a slip in his game in 2014. Some of the cap space created by restructuring the deals of Thomas Davis, Jonathan Stewart and Ryan Kalil could be earmarked for finding a replacement, although the Panthers have 20 other pending free agents and some other work to do on the offensive line this offseason.

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Old 02-25-2014, 05:05 PM   #46
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If you tag him, you lose that cap money right away, and that would impact KC in the free agent market.
We aren't going to be big spenders in FA anyways, we'll be picking up bargain basement types of deals and we can get that from vets who will still be available after the draft. I don't see too many teams spending big money this year in FA given the strength of this draft class. Most, if not all, teams will value a young and talented unknown player over an average vet any day.

This FA class has a lot of average vets and only a few stars who will probably get tagged/re-signed anyways. (Graham, Byrd, Bethea, Grimes, Monroe, Veldheer, Shields, etc)

There are also the cap casualties that you can wait on after the draft as teams decide that they no longer need a really expensive vet and cut him loose. Those guys can be signed as well.
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Old 02-25-2014, 05:09 PM   #47
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Old 02-25-2014, 05:26 PM   #48
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Not sure it's every state, but a lot of them do tax that game check.
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I'm sure that he and Fisher will be battling for that position all off-season.
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We aren't going to be big spenders in FA anyways, we'll be picking up bargain basement types of deals and we can get that from vets who will still be available after the draft. I don't see too many teams spending big money this year in FA given the strength of this draft class. Most, if not all, teams will value a young and talented unknown player over an average vet any day.

This FA class has a lot of average vets and only a few stars who will probably get tagged/re-signed anyways. (Graham, Byrd, Bethea, Grimes, Monroe, Veldheer, Shields, etc)

There are also the cap casualties that you can wait on after the draft as teams decide that they no longer need a really expensive vet and cut him loose. Those guys can be signed as well.
The Chiefs are somewhere around $129 million right now, with a top 51 around $122 million. They'd have to pony up the money for Albert on top of that. And that doesn't include money that needs to be set aside, either.


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Pretty sure that someone would trade a 3rd or at the very least a 4th for him. Better than getting nothing this year.
I'm not 100% sure what compensation pick we'd receive, but I thought it would be bottom on the 3rd round. Anything less than that would be a wasted effort.
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That's the main thing. It's a million dollar difference.
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I'm not 100% sure what compensation pick we'd receive, but I thought it would be bottom on the 3rd round. Anything less than that would be a wasted effort.
You don't get comp picks until the next season. This draft is easily the best in the past decade or even longer and we only have 1 pick in the top 75. That really sucks.
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they'll keep Fisher at right
He's a 1.1, he'll get every opportunity to start at LT.
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Branden has worked hard in his career and toiled on some bad teams. I will be glad for him getting a big payday, regardless of what we want to debate about where he is among the league's left tackles. It's a seller's market for him this year. He deserves a big contract. It just doesn't make sense for us to be the ones who give it to him.

Aside from the obvious, it would just completely reek of play-it-safe, ultra conservative, bet-hedging Chiefs of old. We aren't going to come out ahead if we go into next year with the same 3 tackles, but paying a lot more for them. We might come out way ahead though, if we let the aging one go and the one who was a consensus top half of the first round pick works out for us.

One move seems like what the Chiefs would historically do, and one seems like what better teams would do.
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He's a 1.1, he'll get every opportunity to start at LT.
Fisher needs to gain some muscle....and some nuts
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