Kansas City Star (May 3rd Mock) - Page 2

In58men · 05-04-2014, 09:29 PM

23 Kansas City Chiefs

TE Austin Seferian-Jenkins, Washington

Could form a devastating duo over the middle with Travis Kelce.

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2014/05/03...#storylink=cpy

TE is not a top priority imo

**RealSNR** · 05-06-2014, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

It's because he's small with short arms.

Considering that this draft is loaded with guys who are 6'3", 200+ lbs. running a 4.4something 40, it's a bit of a hard sell to spend a first rounder on a 5'4", 150 lbs. guy with 23" arms no matter how productive he was in college.

Steve mother****ing Smith.

Say it with me.

Steve.

Mother****ing.

Smith.

Gravedigger · 05-06-2014, 10:14 AM

Honestly if this team draft's anything other than a WR or a S with that first pick I'm going to be left scratching my head. Sure you could take an OL CB LB TE etc etc but the priority and the position you need most at this point is a WR or S.

So that's two for two for shitty articles from the KC Star, trade Berry and draft a TE with the first pick... good ones guys. If you're going for original ideas that's about as original as it gets I suppose.

**The Franchise** · 05-06-2014, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Wrong.

So which one is it? You flip flop on the fatties like a drunk nerd at last call.

Sorter · 05-06-2014, 06:49 PM

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**BossChief** · 05-06-2014, 07:03 PM

Jenkins wouldn't be the worst pick we could make.

Discuss Thrower · 05-06-2014, 07:20 PM

I think a tight end, be it ASJ, Amaro or Ebron makes a more immediate impact on the team than a WR.

I could also be incredibly wrong, but I think a viable pass catching TE like ASJ can draw off coverage deeper down the field from Bowe or Avery if Smith hypnotizes himself into thinking he's throwing to Vernon Davis.

Bonus points if Kelce turns out to be the guy people think he can be. KC can run a legit double tight formation that can allow for moar JC action as well as passing flexibility.

Saccopoo · 05-06-2014, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

If we draft Gabe ****ing Jackson, or any Guard at 23 with the talent sitting on the table, it will be a monumental **** up.

God help us is Dorsey drafts that fat **** over Brandin Cooks.

Gabe Jackson:

Brandin Cooks:

Saccopoo · 05-06-2014, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

Steve mother****ing Smith.

Say it with me.

Steve.

Mother****ing.

Smith.

I can't. I'm not allowed.

I will be castigated as being a "homer" by mentioning such players.

Saccopoo · 05-06-2014, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

So which one is it? You flip flop on the fatties like a drunk nerd at last call.

You take the best player at the spot where you pick.

Gabe Jackson will be the best player available (and, fortunately, at one of the biggest positions of need) when the Chiefs select at #23.

Saccopoo · 05-06-2014, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

I think a tight end, be it ASJ, Amaro or Ebron makes a more immediate impact on the team than a WR.

I could also be incredibly wrong, but I think a viable pass catching TE like ASJ can draw off coverage deeper down the field from Bowe or Avery if Smith hypnotizes himself into thinking he's throwing to Vernon Davis.

Bonus points if Kelce turns out to be the guy people think he can be. KC can run a legit double tight formation that can allow for moar JC action as well as passing flexibility.

With Fasano, McGrath and Kelce, the tight end position is one of the Chiefs real positions of strength.

Drafting a tight end would be redundant and a waste of a pick.

Discuss Thrower · 05-06-2014, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo

With Fasano, McGrath and Kelce, the tight end position is one of the Chiefs real positions of strength.

Drafting a tight end would be redundant and a waste of a pick.

You jest.

McGrath is below replacement level. Fasano is average at best. Kelce's unproven but supposedly has upside that elevates him well above the other two guys on ahead of him on the chart.

Tight end is just as weak as wide receiver on this team, if not more so.

BryanBusby · 05-06-2014, 08:17 PM

Leave it to Saccopoo to pimp a bottom half Day 2 player at 23.

planetdoc · 05-06-2014, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Jenkins wouldn't be the worst pick we could make.

He has tony G ability. supposedly ran in the 4.5s in a private workout. Wish he was more productive in college...he should have dominated.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Gabe Jackson will be the best player available (and, fortunately, at one of the biggest positions of need) when the Chiefs select at #23.

no way.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

With Fasano, McGrath and Kelce, the tight end position is one of the Chiefs real positions of strength.

Drafting a tight end would be redundant and a waste of a pick.

Fasano is not a #1 TE, and is average at best.
McGrath did well as a rookie, but is no better than a #2 TE.

Kelce has all world athletic ability, but is unproven and coming back from a serious injury. If the chiefs pursue a TE early, than it tells you all you need to know about how they feel about this group.

In anycase, Alex smith likes the short passing game. I think Dorsey would love to run 12 personel (2 TE, 2 WR) which would allow him to run and pass out of instead of 3 WR sets.

Let your WR take the top off the defense, let your TE work the middle/pass protect/run block, and let JC exploit the matchups.

planetdoc · 05-06-2014, 08:37 PM

I just rewatched MS state vs LSU 2013, and Gabe jackson is a mauler.

He is a great run blocker, good on screens...even getting to the second level (suprisingly).

He plays to the whistle and try to pancake people. He did better than I expected as a pass blocker specially when moving guys to the outside and mirroring with a kick-slide. He got beat a couple times with inside moves. Most of the time he got his hands on the defender and they didnt stand a chance.

I still question his ability to thrive in a zone blocking scheme (though he has displayed ability to work a zone), and thrive in an offense that prioritizes the pass. That being said, I think he would be an upgrade for the chiefs and that he can be a very good NFL guard, but would not be the BPA at #23 overall.

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05-06-2014, 10:14 AM	#17
Gravedigger Plays to win the game! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Lees Summit Casino cash: $6503101	Honestly if this team draft's anything other than a WR or a S with that first pick I'm going to be left scratching my head. Sure you could take an OL CB LB TE etc etc but the priority and the position you need most at this point is a WR or S. So that's two for two for shitty articles from the KC Star, trade Berry and draft a TE with the first pick... good ones guys. If you're going for original ideas that's about as original as it gets I suppose.
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Discuss Thrower "You like to drink?" Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: "I like to drink." Casino cash: $-170000	I think a tight end, be it ASJ, Amaro or Ebron makes a more immediate impact on the team than a WR. I could also be incredibly wrong, but I think a viable pass catching TE like ASJ can draw off coverage deeper down the field from Bowe or Avery if Smith hypnotizes himself into thinking he's throwing to Vernon Davis. Bonus points if Kelce turns out to be the guy people think he can be. KC can run a legit double tight formation that can allow for moar JC action as well as passing flexibility. __________________ Chiefs 2016 Opponents: Home: JAX, TEN, NO, TB, NYJ. Away: HOU, IND, ATL, CAR, PIT Chiefs 2017 Opponents: Home: BUF, MIA, PHI, WSH, AFC North. Away: NE, NYJ, NYG, DAL, AFC South
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05-06-2014, 08:37 PM	#29
planetdoc Veteran Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $9995865	I just rewatched MS state vs LSU 2013, and Gabe jackson is a mauler. He is a great run blocker, good on screens...even getting to the second level (suprisingly). He plays to the whistle and try to pancake people. He did better than I expected as a pass blocker specially when moving guys to the outside and mirroring with a kick-slide. He got beat a couple times with inside moves. Most of the time he got his hands on the defender and they didnt stand a chance. I still question his ability to thrive in a zone blocking scheme (though he has displayed ability to work a zone), and thrive in an offense that prioritizes the pass. That being said, I think he would be an upgrade for the chiefs and that he can be a very good NFL guard, but would not be the BPA at #23 overall.
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