Chiefs A few things to clear up. - Page 4

Direckshun · 03-29-2015, 01:30 AM

The Chiefs are a really, really good team with a few weaknesses, and a non-elite quarterback.

I have no idea why that's such a hard notion to grasp.

We have some folks (not on ChiefsPlanet) who are committed to the idea that the Chiefs are a couple pieces away from Super Bowl contention. That's a really difficult idea to swallow, because unless the Alex Smith of the Colts playoffs game emerges, this team doesn't have the quarterback to win the Super Bowl.

We have other folks (approximately 75% of ChiefsPlanet) who are similarly committed to the idea that the entire team is ass, an opinion fueled by hatred of Alex Smith's limitations more than it is by fact.

This Chiefs team has a couple holes, right? At WR and ILB and OL and so on.

With the exception of MAYBE two teams in the NFL, MAYBE, so does every other team in the NFL. In a parity driven league, you simply can't plug all holes unless your GM is simply better than everybody else (Schneider in Seattle, Belichek in New England). And even that is difficult to swallow -- Ozzie Newsome and Ted Thompson are the two of the top five GMs in the NFL and Baltimore and Green Bay have at LEAST as many roster holes as the Chiefs do. (Green Bay is riddled with them.) They've just been able to win Super Bowls by overcoming those holes, not by plugging all of them.

That said, the Chiefs have a Top 10 defense that is returning in its entirety in 2015. DJ and DeVito will be back, Ford and Gaines will have had another year, and Clark Hunt has personally said the Chiefs want Houston to be a Chief for his whole career. The entire secondary, the #2 secondary in the NFL last year, will be back. The entire passrush, a Top 5 passrush in the NFL, will be back. All our Pro Bowlers will be back. Plus we have 10 draft picks.

The Chiefs have serious holes, still, on the OL and WR corps, and hopefully address it in the draft. Travis Kelce was a de facto rookie last year. De'Anthony Thomas was a rookie last year. Albert Wilson was a rookie that only played for a month. Fulton and Fisher were rookies at their position last year. We benched one of our best-ish lineman in Stephenson and lost Allen to injury. Both will return. Our #1 WR right now actually fits the offense. PLUS WE HAVE 10 DRAFT PICKS.

Alex Smith is a weight on this team so long as he plays like Regular Season Alex Smith. The team can succeed with that Alex Smith, however, because they went 9-7 last year against the league's toughest schedule. This year, the ONLY THING the Chiefs have lost is Rodney Hudson. Everywhere else, we're better. And our schedule will be easier.

Plus... we have 10 draft picks. Four of them in the top 100.

So count me amongst the realists. I'm not printing Super Bowl tickets nor am I a fatalist fueled by the Smith-hate.

I will say, if somehow, the Alex Smith that has balled out of his mind in all three playoff games he's played somehow emerges and manages to stick around, I could be seriously swayed towards believing that Anything Is Possible in 2015.

I just doubt it. But that probably means the Chiefs are still "merely" going to be a very dangerous, talented team in 2015.

Hammock Parties · 03-29-2015, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Williams

Vanilla offense.

Just testing the waters.

Seeing who can play.

It takes at least 4 seasons for an offense/regime to hit stride.

It sucks that we had so many picks in a weak draft/every other team jumped our board.

Fisher is still developing.

Maclin and Smith have NEVER played together, they need to develop chemistry.

**Trivers** · 03-29-2015, 04:23 PM

You two should get a room.

I've been disappointed too many times; but yet hope springs eternal.

We won't know till September.

Otter · 03-29-2015, 04:28 PM

Heh, occasionally I catch my wife watching soap operas and I see myself watching football and taking it seriously. I'll care when the Chiefs are in post-season contention.

Mr. Laz · 03-29-2015, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Lahey

We've shown we can beat some of the top teams in the league. This team is still one of the youngest in the league. Yeah we have a chickenshit QB but we have to deal with it. If we add another guy opposite Maclin in the draft and Allen or Stephenson step up at RT, our line should be good enough to get by.

Our defense balled out last season for losing DJ, and Devito. We had no namers at ILB and corner and still had a top 10 D. Obviously another ILB and safety in the first 4 rounds would be great.

Bottom line is, with our coaching staff, if Dorsey is able to hit on this draft..as in at least 3-4 guys who are either starting or rotating at key positions there's no reason why we don't make a run this year unless we get the injury bug.

people keep acting like being a young team is some badge of honor

It can just as easily mean that you don't pay to keep your players around long enough to get older and/or you fail drafting really good players so you have to keep trying over and over again.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 03-29-2015, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Numbah One

Maclin and Smith have NEVER played together, they need to develop chemistry.

Oh you KNOW that one's coming.

milkman · 03-29-2015, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

people keep acting like being a young team is some badge of honor

It can just as easily mean that you don't pay to keep your players around long enough to get older and/or you fail drafting really good players so you have to keep trying over and over again.

Or it could mean that the last 2 regimes failed miserably with the talent they drafted, and those pieces don't fit with this regime.

Jim Lahey · 03-29-2015, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

people keep acting like being a young team is some badge of honor

It can just as easily mean that you don't pay to keep your players around long enough to get older and/or you fail drafting really good players so you have to keep trying over and over again.

Yeah because we've refused to pay so many players over the years. GTFO with that bullshit.

We've had a young team for years but not a young team with this much overall talent. Our window for making a deep playoff run is opening this season whether you want to accept that fact or not.

03-29-2015, 01:30 AM
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2053447	A few things to clear up. The Chiefs are a really, really good team with a few weaknesses, and a non-elite quarterback. I have no idea why that's such a hard notion to grasp. We have some folks (not on ChiefsPlanet) who are committed to the idea that the Chiefs are a couple pieces away from Super Bowl contention. That's a really difficult idea to swallow, because unless the Alex Smith of the Colts playoffs game emerges, this team doesn't have the quarterback to win the Super Bowl. We have other folks (approximately 75% of ChiefsPlanet) who are similarly committed to the idea that the entire team is ass, an opinion fueled by hatred of Alex Smith's limitations more than it is by fact. This Chiefs team has a couple holes, right? At WR and ILB and OL and so on. With the exception of MAYBE two teams in the NFL, MAYBE, so does every other team in the NFL. In a parity driven league, you simply can't plug all holes unless your GM is simply better than everybody else (Schneider in Seattle, Belichek in New England). And even that is difficult to swallow -- Ozzie Newsome and Ted Thompson are the two of the top five GMs in the NFL and Baltimore and Green Bay have at LEAST as many roster holes as the Chiefs do. (Green Bay is riddled with them.) They've just been able to win Super Bowls by overcoming those holes, not by plugging all of them. That said, the Chiefs have a Top 10 defense that is returning in its entirety in 2015. DJ and DeVito will be back, Ford and Gaines will have had another year, and Clark Hunt has personally said the Chiefs want Houston to be a Chief for his whole career. The entire secondary, the #2 secondary in the NFL last year, will be back. The entire passrush, a Top 5 passrush in the NFL, will be back. All our Pro Bowlers will be back. Plus we have 10 draft picks. The Chiefs have serious holes, still, on the OL and WR corps, and hopefully address it in the draft. Travis Kelce was a de facto rookie last year. De'Anthony Thomas was a rookie last year. Albert Wilson was a rookie that only played for a month. Fulton and Fisher were rookies at their position last year. We benched one of our best-ish lineman in Stephenson and lost Allen to injury. Both will return. Our #1 WR right now actually fits the offense. PLUS WE HAVE 10 DRAFT PICKS. Alex Smith is a weight on this team so long as he plays like Regular Season Alex Smith. The team can succeed with that Alex Smith, however, because they went 9-7 last year against the league's toughest schedule. This year, the ONLY THING the Chiefs have lost is Rodney Hudson. Everywhere else, we're better. And our schedule will be easier. Plus... we have 10 draft picks. Four of them in the top 100. So count me amongst the realists. I'm not printing Super Bowl tickets nor am I a fatalist fueled by the Smith-hate. I will say, if somehow, the Alex Smith that has balled out of his mind in all three playoff games he's played somehow emerges and manages to stick around, I could be seriously swayed towards believing that Anything Is Possible in 2015. I just doubt it. But that probably means the Chiefs are still "merely" going to be a very dangerous, talented team in 2015.
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Trivers Always ask 'Why?" Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Two Rivers, Wisconsin Casino cash: $-847600	You two should get a room. I've been disappointed too many times; but yet hope springs eternal. We won't know till September.
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