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Old 07-13-2015, 07:45 AM  
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Jon Oliver did a bit tonight about the use of public funds for stadiums

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Old 07-13-2015, 11:31 PM   #61
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If Kroenke wants to build a $2 billion dollar stadium in Inglewood, the NFL won't stop him. Otherwise, it's not going to happen.

The Carson plan site is literally on top of a toxic waste site and the environmental reports will take years.
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Old 07-13-2015, 11:31 PM   #62
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Sure, but they lose the biggest card they have to threaten cities with.
Not really. Outside of St. Louis, there aren't any NFC teams threatening to move. But the AFC still has Jacksonville, Oakland, the Chargers, etc.

It's all folly, anyway. In another 20 years, giant stadiums will be irrelevant as virtual reality tickets will be all the rage.
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Old 07-13-2015, 11:38 PM   #63
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It's all folly, anyway. In another 20 years, giant stadiums will be irrelevant as virtual reality tickets will be all the rage.
That's going to be sweet and I've never thought of that before. Like in every section there's going to be a super HD camera broadcasting in 4k resolution for 100$ a pop for whomever wants to watch at home.

Would work for a couple weeks until people start streaming them to others like they do now.
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Old 07-13-2015, 11:43 PM   #64
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That's going to be sweet and I've never thought of that before. Like in every section there's going to be a super HD camera broadcasting in 4k resolution for 100$ a pop for whomever wants to watch at home.

Would work for a couple weeks until people start streaming them to others like they do now.
Once the United States decides to catch up to the rest of the world in terms of internet speed, it'll be a reality sooner than you can imagine.
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Old 07-13-2015, 11:52 PM   #65
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I didn't prove anything...it was a study on the impact of publicly funded stadiums and the local community. It was a few years ago so dont have a link..

I found the part interesting that if people dont spend at the stadium..that expendable money still goes back into the economy. People still eat out and do things...but it isn't a consolidated purge that goes into the hands of a few. 70,000 people dropping $150-200 at one place...

I agree that a team can give a city like KC an identity...it's hard to put a monetary value on civic pride. Does anyone really think "Chargers" or "49ers" when talking about San Diego or San Fransisco? I dont...I think weather, beach and tech industry. Forcing tax payers to fund a stadium in those environments..where tourism isn't dependent on their professional sports is a rip-off.
That sure doesnt apply to me then. Sporting events cause me to spend and consume way more than I would otherwise. For example, KU played at the Sprint Center a few weeks ago. I shelled out $250 more than I would have on a typical Friday Night. In fact, I went to the Tuesday game to when I usually just go to the gym and dont spurn the economy whatsoever. But on Friday after, I went to some local bars at P and L, and then spent $110 for a dinner at Antons. Adding it up, I wouldnt have spent that money at all had it not been for that event.
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Old 07-13-2015, 11:59 PM   #66
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That sure doesnt apply to me then. Sporting events cause me to spend and consume way more than I would otherwise. For example, KU played at the Sprint Center a few weeks ago. I shelled out $250 more than I would have on a typical Friday Night. In fact, I went to the Tuesday game to when I usually just go to the gym and dont spurn the economy whatsoever. But on Friday after, I went to some local bars at P and L, and then spent $110 for a dinner at Antons. Adding it up, I wouldnt have spent that money at all had it not been for that event.
While you believe that sports define your city, most other Americans would disagree.

As a matter of fact, 90% of the people I've met in the last 30 years outside of Kansas City don't even realize that there's a Kansas City, Missouri and a Kansas City, Kansas, let alone, know about the Chiefs or the Royals.

As usual, your views are vehemently myopic.
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Old 07-14-2015, 12:05 AM   #67
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BWillie,

How common do you think your experience is?
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