Can we talk offensive line?

[TambaBerry]

Can someone please explain to me why our offensive line sucks so bad? We can't open up any holes for Ware, we can't push the ball in from the one yard line, we also let guys run free into the backfield. Is it coaching? Do our players just suck?

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

They're pulling Morse left as well because Fulton can't stand his ground.

If these people would actually RE-WATCH games and just focus on a single player, I'd like to think they'd see something different.

It's just like when a shitload of people said "Schwartz has been great!" without charting each play in the first Denver game, in which he was butt****ed by Shaq Barrett and Von Miller.

It's ****ing CP at its finest.

I'd have to re-watch to see what's going on. Sometimes you pull centers on tosses/sweeps, other times for wham concepts. Can vary with different fronts as well for OZ concepts (though usually it will be the G and/or T that pull).

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

You're not isolating or watching jackshit.

I am and have been detailing the issues all season long.

My opinion wasn't formed overnight.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Then you're doing it wrong

theres no arguing with you on equal terms, you're always going to have the better view of things

I'm not doing a damn thing wrong, you're insisting on being the sole authority around here lately... and that shit aint gonna fly, but for tonight carry on soldier... we can argue another time

[ThaVirus]

I'm going to need to see some gifs or video of Ehringer and Fulton and how losing Ehringer could possibly shake things up in such a noticeable fashion.

Right now you're suggesting something that's far fetched as hell so I'm placing the burden of proof on you.

[RunKC]

I'm curious if Sherman was taken off the field more after Fulton was put in. That would change a lot

[O.city]

Ehinger brought a little more nasty to the front. That's been missing, but a bigger issue from my seat has been the lack of quickness from the backs with the ol always seem gly to have a misstep here or there.

So many times they blow a hole open but the back is a step or two late grtting there. Gotta remember, with west banged up all year, Ware has gotten a shitload of carries and he's never had near this many. He's worn down over the season.

It's why I don't think you can roll with or count on Charles next year. They've suffered at rb this season

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

I'm going to need to see some gifs or video of Ehringer and Fulton and how losing Ehringer could possibly shake things up in such a noticeable fashion.

Right now you're suggesting something that's far fetched as hell so I'm placing the burden of proof on you.

Oh, just **** off.

You can't provide shit because you can't see shit.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Originally Posted by LoneWolf

Spencer Ware averages almost five yards per carry, the Chiefs rush for 238 yards, and the offensive line doesn't allow a sack in 37 pass attempts to the best pass rushing duo in the NFL. Guess it's time to start a thread bitching about the offensive line.

Might not be the best timing, but this is something people haven't talked about nearly enough this year. It's the main reason we haven't seen the consistency on offense we had hoped to see.

There's only been one period of highly productive offense in recent years, and it was the 2nd half of Reid's first season, when the line had gelled into a solid and consistent unit. The points started piling up, Smith had some of his best statistical games, and the running game was rolling. Then Dorsey allowed three of those linemen to walk in the offseason and we've had mediocre line play since.

B*tch about Smith all you want, but if we could get ANY push whatsoever up the middle, this would be a far more productive offense. It's absurd how often the RBs get stuffed at the line and fail to convert 3rd and short or 4th and short.

[NJChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar

Might not be the best timing, but this is something people haven't talked about nearly enough this year. It's the main reason we haven't seen the consistency on offense we had hoped to see.

There's only been one period of highly productive offense in recent years, and it was the 2nd half of Reid's first season, when the line had gelled into a solid and consistent unit. The points started piling up, Smith had some of his best statistical games, and the running game was rolling. Then Dorsey allowed three of those linemen to walk in the offseason and we've had mediocre line play since.

B*tch about Smith all you want, but if we could get ANY push whatsoever up the middle, this would be a far more productive offense. It's absurd how often the RBs get stuffed at the line and fail to convert 3rd and short or 4th and short.

The line was a major reason we lost to TEN(along with Smith, DAT, and coaching the final 3 minutes from Sutton and Andy). They took it to heart and came out fighting Sunday. Hopefully they play like that from now on.

Either way we may not see the explosiveness in the run game we saw last year unless it comes off of a Hill sweep.