Chiefs Best draft picks by Round - Round 5 - Page 2

**Rain Man** · 03:12 PM

Okay, we're moving up the draft list. Today we examine the top 5th-round picks in Chiefs history. Here's my list

1. Jerry Mays, 1961 - Jerry's not an AFL ringer, because he was a 5th round AFL pick and an 11th round NFL pick. He was a fixture in the Chiefs' first decade, playing for 10 seasons with 7 AFL pro bowl selections 2 AFL all-pro selections. He was drafted by the Vikings in the NFL draft, so if he hadn't chosen the Chiefs, I shudder to think how Super Bowl IV could have changed.

2. Dante Hall, 2000 - What is there to say? The human joystick. Seven years with the Chiefs, two pro bowls, an all-pro, and 11 return touchdowns. He's a lesson in how good a returner can be when you put Gary Stills and Derrick Blaylock in front of him.

3. Carlos Carson, 1980 - Carlos was with the Chiefs for 10.5 years, making two pro bowls. His best season was a pretty astounding 80 catches for 1,351 yards, and he's going to be installed in the Chiefs' ring of honor in 2017.

4. Tyreek Hill, 2016 - One season with the Chiefs so far, but with a pro bowl and an all-pro selection in that time. 12 touchdowns, fastest man in the NFL, and while he's only got one season of service, who below him on the list had a better Chiefs career?

5. Brandon Carr, 2008 - Four-year starter for the Chiefs, including his rookie year, and was able to leverage a strong resume with the Chiefs to get his dream job with his favorite team.

6. Scott Fujita, 2002 - This noted bounty hunter was only with the Chiefs for three years, but started for 2.5 of them and was one of the defense's stronger players, though that was a really low bar in the 2002-2004 time frame.

7. Derrick Graham, 1990 - Five years with the Chiefs, two as a starter. He could never quite live up to the Szott-Grunhard-Shield group he played with, but he started on some good teams.

8. Joe Horn, 1996 - He thrived once he moved into Willie Roaf's old house in New Orleans, but in KC he played for four years and wasn't a starter because Marty saw more upside in Kevin Lockett. But, hey, the fans recognized his ability.

9. Eric Holle, 1984 - Four years as a serviceable nose tackle backup. That'll get you on the list.

10. D.J. Alexander, 2015 - Only two years with the team, but has a pro bowl on his resume as a special teams ace. Still has growth potential from here.

Others who were considered include Charles Mincy, Derrick Blaylock, Pat Dennis, Jordan Black just to annoy people, Kendrick Lewis because I'm required to and it makes me mad that I had to think about him, Jim Arnold, Jimbo Elrod, Kolby Smith, and just for fun, Boomer Grigsby. I briefly pondered Sanders Commings, but he got hurt as soon as I thought about him and is no longer eligible.

**Rain Man** · 06-25-2017, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Dante Hall didn't do much of anything is first couple of years.

I remember thinking he was a bust going into 2002

He's probably the best ever example of the difference that coaching can make. He was small and slow until Dick Vermeil showed up with his special teams coach...can't remember the name. Then all of a sudden he was a great return man.

patteeu · 06-26-2017, 08:29 AM

I voted for Joe Horn for his post-Chiefs career.* If I were basing it on only what they did for the Chiefs, I would have picked Carlos Carson. Brandon Carr was a consideration.

* I didn't even give him credit for driving Willie Roaf our way or he would have been a runaway selection.

**Rain Man** · 06-26-2017, 09:41 AM

Hey, I think D.J. Alexander posts here.

D.J., I hope you get the starting job and destroy worlds this year. Loved the blowup hit on that running play last season. You know the one.

**Rausch** · 06-26-2017, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

Hey, I think D.J. Alexander posts here.

D.J., I hope you get the starting job and destroy worlds this year. Loved the blowup hit on that running play last season. You know the one.

I'm not sure on the rules here. Is this "best for KC" or just best talent drafted based on their career?

For instance: a guy like Joe Horn should be close to the top of this list overall but he did very little for KC...

**Rain Man** · 06-26-2017, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

I'm not sure on the rules here. Is this "best for KC" or just best talent drafted based on their career?

For instance: a guy like Joe Horn should be close to the top of this list overall but he did very little for KC...

It's 'best for KC', disregarding anything they did for other teams. I probably should repeat that in each thread, since I only mentioned it in the first thread of this series. Thanks for the reminder.

patteeu · 06-26-2017, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

It's 'best for KC', disregarding anything they did for other teams. I probably should repeat that in each thread, since I only mentioned it in the first thread of this series. Thanks for the reminder.

Oops - I change my vote to Carlos Carson (from Joe Horn).

View Poll Results: The best 5th round pick in Chiefs history is...
Jerry Mays	4	8.89%
Dante Hall	11	24.44%
Carlos Carson	10	22.22%
Tyreek Hill	12	26.67%
Brandon Carr	0	0%
Scott Fujita	0	0%
Derrick Graham	0	0%
Joe Horn	5	11.11%
Eric Holle	1	2.22%
D.J. Alexander	2	4.44%
Charles Mincy	0	0%
Derrick Blaylock	0	0%
Pat Dennis	0	0%
Jordan Black	0	0%
Kendrick "Hey, there goes Hilton" Lewis	0	0%
Jim Arnold	0	0%
Jimbo Elrod	0	0%
Kolby Smith	0	0%
Boomer Grigsby	0	0%
Some other player not mentioned above	0	0%
We need to draft more special teams guys with our fifth-round picks	0	0%
Voters: 45. You may not vote on this poll

06-25-2017, 02:37 PM
Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $-472449 VARSITY	Best draft picks by Round - Round 5 Okay, we're moving up the draft list. Today we examine the top 5th-round picks in Chiefs history. Here's my list 1. Jerry Mays, 1961 - Jerry's not an AFL ringer, because he was a 5th round AFL pick and an 11th round NFL pick. He was a fixture in the Chiefs' first decade, playing for 10 seasons with 7 AFL pro bowl selections 2 AFL all-pro selections. He was drafted by the Vikings in the NFL draft, so if he hadn't chosen the Chiefs, I shudder to think how Super Bowl IV could have changed. 2. Dante Hall, 2000 - What is there to say? The human joystick. Seven years with the Chiefs, two pro bowls, an all-pro, and 11 return touchdowns. He's a lesson in how good a returner can be when you put Gary Stills and Derrick Blaylock in front of him. 3. Carlos Carson, 1980 - Carlos was with the Chiefs for 10.5 years, making two pro bowls. His best season was a pretty astounding 80 catches for 1,351 yards, and he's going to be installed in the Chiefs' ring of honor in 2017. 4. Tyreek Hill, 2016 - One season with the Chiefs so far, but with a pro bowl and an all-pro selection in that time. 12 touchdowns, fastest man in the NFL, and while he's only got one season of service, who below him on the list had a better Chiefs career? 5. Brandon Carr, 2008 - Four-year starter for the Chiefs, including his rookie year, and was able to leverage a strong resume with the Chiefs to get his dream job with his favorite team. 6. Scott Fujita, 2002 - This noted bounty hunter was only with the Chiefs for three years, but started for 2.5 of them and was one of the defense's stronger players, though that was a really low bar in the 2002-2004 time frame. 7. Derrick Graham, 1990 - Five years with the Chiefs, two as a starter. He could never quite live up to the Szott-Grunhard-Shield group he played with, but he started on some good teams. 8. Joe Horn, 1996 - He thrived once he moved into Willie Roaf's old house in New Orleans, but in KC he played for four years and wasn't a starter because Marty saw more upside in Kevin Lockett. But, hey, the fans recognized his ability. 9. Eric Holle, 1984 - Four years as a serviceable nose tackle backup. That'll get you on the list. 10. D.J. Alexander, 2015 - Only two years with the team, but has a pro bowl on his resume as a special teams ace. Still has growth potential from here. Others who were considered include Charles Mincy, Derrick Blaylock, Pat Dennis, Jordan Black just to annoy people, Kendrick Lewis because I'm required to and it makes me mad that I had to think about him, Jim Arnold, Jimbo Elrod, Kolby Smith, and just for fun, Boomer Grigsby. I briefly pondered Sanders Commings, but he got hurt as soon as I thought about him and is no longer eligible. Last edited by Rain Man; 06-25-2017 at 03:12 PM..
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06-26-2017, 08:29 AM	#17
patteeu The 23rd Pillar Join Date: Sep 2002 Casino cash: $10019237	I voted for Joe Horn for his post-Chiefs career.* If I were basing it on only what they did for the Chiefs, I would have picked Carlos Carson. Brandon Carr was a consideration. * I didn't even give him credit for driving Willie Roaf our way or he would have been a runaway selection. __________________ “Boy, you all want power. God, I hope you never get it.” - Lindsay Graham
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