The age of draft picks?!!!

UChieffyBugger · 04-09-2018, 02:36 AM

The Chiefs interviewed two prospects at the combine In Nathan Shepherd and Jordan Akins. Shepherd Is 25 and Akins, who has also just recently had a workout with the Chiefs, Is gonna be 26 before the draft starts. So the question Is how do yall feel about potentially drafting older rookies?

I'm not sure tbh. On one hand, If it's someone who Is decent and can fill a hole In a certain area of the field then I guess It's ok. But on the other hand, handing out a second contract could get messy.

The Chiefs seem to like Akins so it's gonna be interesting to see If that happens. A 26-year-old rookie though? I think I'd only be comfortable getting him with the 6th or 7th picks. Anything above that would be too much for me.

Hoover · 04-09-2018, 09:06 AM

Unless they are a stud, I'd pass. Unless we are looking for a long snapper or something.

kccrow · 04-09-2018, 09:52 AM

As a rule, I mean, you're looking at them as pretty much 2nd contract guys without any development yet. I don't know that I'd pull the trigger unless I got them really late. By the time you do develop them, they will be on the physical decline. I would make some consideration for offensive line, defensive line, and quarterback simply because those positions tend to have longevity into their mid 30's, but that's about it. That being said, I could live with an early day 3 pick of a guy like Shepherd. Would I spend a 2nd on him? No. I wouldn't touch Akins in the draft. UDFA? Sure, why not.

**BossChief** · 04-09-2018, 11:01 AM

Andy Reid drafted a guard named Danny Watkins in the first round when he was already 26 years old.

Direckshun · 04-09-2018, 11:06 AM

I would take Nathan Shepherd without a second look.

The age of thinking of players as decade-long prospects needs to end. In the vast majority of the NFL, teams regimes change too fast and too many players bust.

That doesn't hold for QBs or OL -- who, if they're talented, will almost certainly stay with their team for a decade. But every other position in the NFL can change too much from contract to contract. Players lose value in a hurry after they reach their prime, and front offices change too radically.

staylor26 · 04-09-2018, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Andy Reid drafted a guard named Danny Watkins in the first round when he was already 26 years old.

And that is exactly why he needs a guy like Dorsey/Veach to be in charge of personnel. I don’t think either of those guys would let Andy make a mistake like that in KC. I know he obviously has say, but those days are over.

KCrockaholic · 04-09-2018, 01:13 PM

I'm ok with older rookies but not taking them until the 5th round at the earliest. Also, the expectation would be that they can come in and make an impact right away.

**BossChief** · 04-09-2018, 02:47 PM

Elway took a 25 year old OT that is already showing signs of not being able to handle the position and doesn’t have the versatility to move anywhere else.

Oops.

O.city · 04-09-2018, 02:49 PM

If a guy is developed and ready to go, sure. They aren't likely to see a 2nd contract anyway.

But probably nah.

04-09-2018, 02:36 AM
UChieffyBugger CP'S "MOST HATED" 😆 Join Date: Feb 2018 Casino cash: $-1099600	The age of draft picks?!!! The Chiefs interviewed two prospects at the combine In Nathan Shepherd and Jordan Akins. Shepherd Is 25 and Akins, who has also just recently had a workout with the Chiefs, Is gonna be 26 before the draft starts. So the question Is how do yall feel about potentially drafting older rookies? I'm not sure tbh. On one hand, If it's someone who Is decent and can fill a hole In a certain area of the field then I guess It's ok. But on the other hand, handing out a second contract could get messy. The Chiefs seem to like Akins so it's gonna be interesting to see If that happens. A 26-year-old rookie though? I think I'd only be comfortable getting him with the 6th or 7th picks. Anything above that would be too much for me.
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04-09-2018, 09:06 AM	#2
Hoover Rufus Dawes Jr. Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $-2101821	Unless they are a stud, I'd pass. Unless we are looking for a long snapper or something.
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kccrow MVP Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Michigan Casino cash: $-1240000	As a rule, I mean, you're looking at them as pretty much 2nd contract guys without any development yet. I don't know that I'd pull the trigger unless I got them really late. By the time you do develop them, they will be on the physical decline. I would make some consideration for offensive line, defensive line, and quarterback simply because those positions tend to have longevity into their mid 30's, but that's about it. That being said, I could live with an early day 3 pick of a guy like Shepherd. Would I spend a 2nd on him? No. I wouldn't touch Akins in the draft. UDFA? Sure, why not.
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BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $-1705912	Andy Reid drafted a guard named Danny Watkins in the first round when he was already 26 years old. __________________ Dreams do come true... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
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Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2033447	I would take Nathan Shepherd without a second look. The age of thinking of players as decade-long prospects needs to end. In the vast majority of the NFL, teams regimes change too fast and too many players bust. That doesn't hold for QBs or OL -- who, if they're talented, will almost certainly stay with their team for a decade. But every other position in the NFL can change too much from contract to contract. Players lose value in a hurry after they reach their prime, and front offices change too radically.
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KCrockaholic Sarcasm Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Olathe Casino cash: $3362900	I'm ok with older rookies but not taking them until the 5th round at the earliest. Also, the expectation would be that they can come in and make an impact right away.
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BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $-1705912	Elway took a 25 year old OT that is already showing signs of not being able to handle the position and doesn’t have the versatility to move anywhere else. Oops. __________________ Dreams do come true... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
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O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-685936	If a guy is developed and ready to go, sure. They aren't likely to see a 2nd contract anyway. But probably nah.
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