Home Discord Chat
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > Nzoner's Game Room

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-24-2008, 11:43 PM  
Tribal Warfare Tribal Warfare is offline
Man of Culture
 
Tribal Warfare's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Far Beyond Comprehension
Casino cash: $-2787187
Posnanski: With Millen out, now you wonder when Carl Peterson’s reign will end

With Millen out, now you wonder when Carl Peterson’s reign will end


Wednesday, one of the most amazing runs in the history of professional sports came to an end. The Detroit Lions finally fired team president Matt Millen. Early stories coming out of Detroit told of people in traffic honking their car horns in triumph, the way they might when a war ends. Who could blame them? In some ways, a war had ended.

A quick history: Matt Millen took over the Lions in 2001, having honed his management skills as a radio and television broadcaster. He took over with the Lions coming off a winning season. Well, obviously, that would not do. Millen went right to work and hired his first coach, somebody named Marty Mornhinweg, who promptly won five of his next 32 games and drew brief fame for electing to kick off at the start of overtime. Millen fired Mornhinweg and then hired Steve Mariucci, fired him and then hired Rod Marinelli, proving pretty conclusively that if you want to coach Matt Millen’s Lions, you better have an M leading off your last name.

Anyway, the Lions lost and lost — losing record every year — and fans booed, everyone screamed, and yet Millen somehow stayed in charge of the football team for more than seven disastrous seasons. How does that happen? It took the team owner’s son this week to finally and publicly mention that, hey, you know, maybe a general manager with an almost impossible-to-believe 31-84 record might not be doing the best work. And so it came to pass. Millen was axed. And the car horns blared.

The interesting thing to me about all this is not that the Lions canned Matt Millen five years after it was clear to everybody else that he was very bad at his job. That’s what bad organizations do. No, it is specifically those five long years that interest me. How do you deal with that as a fan?

There’s really not much fans can do when a team refuses to fire an incompetent general manager or lousy coach. Fans have limited options. Fans can — and do — write angry letters to the newspaper and scream on local talk shows. Fans can start up Web sites demanding that the teams make a move. Fans can, of course, stop going to games, though that almost seems like punishing yourself for your team’s sins.

Mostly, fans have that familiar and helpless feeling of just waiting around for the team to finally figure out the obvious, get rid of the problem and start over. Lions’ fans banged their heads against the wall for years and shouted, “Can you see this? Hello? Is anyone paying attention? Can somebody please fix my football team? Please?” It had to feel a bit like the moment when the power goes out in your house, and you call the power company, and you can’t get through.

You know where this is leading, of course: Now that Millen is finally gone, it seems to me that the most frustrated football fans in America may have shifted about 650 miles southwest. Now, frustration nation turns its lonely eyes to our fair city and the Kansas City Chiefs, losers of 12 consecutive games, a team that has not led a football game in 22 quarters, a team still being presided, generally managed and chiefly executed by one Carl D. Peterson (reign: 1989 to present).

Peterson presents a uniquely frustrating target for fans because he has been around longer than many of them have been alive. He started his job one month before George Bush became president. Not this George Bush. When Carl Peterson was hired, there was no such thing as a World Wide Web, there were no DVDs, cell phones were roughly the size of bar stools, Sarah Palin was a sports reporter in Alaska and Barack Obama was in law school (John McCain was an Arizona senator).

When Carl Peterson was hired, George Brett still had five years left to play (and a batting title to win), the Ickey Shuffle was the hot dance, Michael Jordan had not yet won his first NBA title and Michael Phelps had not yet learned how to swim.

When Carl Peterson was hired, Madonna and Sean Penn were still married, Poison’s “Every Rose Has Its Thorn” was the No. 1 song in the land, and the comedy series “Seinfeld” had not even begun yet.

You get the point — Peterson has been around for a long time. His first nine seasons were good, often very good, but even that was a long, long time ago. You know all those dreary numbers. A senior in high school right now was 3 years old the last time the Chiefs won a playoff game. Over the last 11 seasons, including this one, the Chiefs have had four coaches, six or seven starting quarterbacks (is it Damon Huard again?), have made the playoffs just twice and have posted an overall losing record.

And now you would have to say that the saga of Carl Peterson has moved past the point of anger and into the realm of the absurd. Carl Peterson is not Matt Millen. Nobody deserves to be compared to Matt Millen. But right now, you would have to say that with Millen gone, Peterson is probably the biggest mystery in the NFL. Every week, dozens and dozens of frustrated fans write in, call in, yell at me from passing cars, all wondering, “How is Carl Peterson still running this team? How is it possible? Is anyone even paying attention? Will it ever change?”

These are hard questions to answer. That’s because there is no answer. I feel certain, though, that a few car horns will blare when the Chiefs finally move on.
Posts: 43,422
Tribal Warfare is obviously part of the inner Circle.Tribal Warfare is obviously part of the inner Circle.Tribal Warfare is obviously part of the inner Circle.Tribal Warfare is obviously part of the inner Circle.Tribal Warfare is obviously part of the inner Circle.Tribal Warfare is obviously part of the inner Circle.Tribal Warfare is obviously part of the inner Circle.Tribal Warfare is obviously part of the inner Circle.Tribal Warfare is obviously part of the inner Circle.Tribal Warfare is obviously part of the inner Circle.Tribal Warfare is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2008, 11:51 PM   #2
SBK SBK is offline
Curry is the pick???
 
SBK's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Georgia
Casino cash: $10004900
Nice article. I bet we see a lot more like it!!
Posts: 8,153
SBK is a favorite in the douche of the year contest.SBK is a favorite in the douche of the year contest.
    Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2008, 11:51 PM   #3
ChiefsCountry ChiefsCountry is offline
The Insider
 
ChiefsCountry's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Lake of the Ozarks
Casino cash: $-1381248
It will end December 29.
Posts: 51,998
ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.ChiefsCountry is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2008, 11:53 PM   #4
88TG88 88TG88 is offline
don't tell me about collage
 
88TG88's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Los Angeles
Casino cash: $10009184
Quote:
Carl Peterson has moved past the point of anger and into the realm of the absurd
That about sums it up
Posts: 6,274
88TG88 has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.88TG88 has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.88TG88 has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.88TG88 has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.88TG88 has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.88TG88 has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.88TG88 has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.88TG88 has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.88TG88 has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.88TG88 has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.88TG88 has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.
    Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2008, 12:16 AM   #5
Mecca Mecca is offline
Hockey Town
 
Mecca's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Kansas City, Missouri
Casino cash: $-512950
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry View Post
It will end December 29.
You know how you know this team is jacked up?

The fact that we have to actually talk about if they'd be back or not after 0-16.
Posts: 115,257
Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2008, 12:19 AM   #6
Mecca Mecca is offline
Hockey Town
 
Mecca's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Kansas City, Missouri
Casino cash: $-512950
And hey Every Rose Has Its Thorn was a rockin tune!
Posts: 115,257
Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2008, 12:20 AM   #7
SBK SBK is offline
Curry is the pick???
 
SBK's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Georgia
Casino cash: $10004900
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca View Post
You know how you know this team is jacked up?

The fact that we have to actually talk about if they'd be back or not after 0-16.
This is true.
Posts: 8,153
SBK is a favorite in the douche of the year contest.SBK is a favorite in the douche of the year contest.
    Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2008, 12:22 AM   #8
Mecca Mecca is offline
Hockey Town
 
Mecca's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Kansas City, Missouri
Casino cash: $-512950
I honestly have doubts if Clark will make any moves.
Posts: 115,257
Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2008, 01:50 AM   #9
teedubya teedubya is offline
Most Valuable Poster
 
teedubya's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2003
Casino cash: $8993042
a team that has not led a football game in 22 quarters,
Posts: 36,828
teedubya is obviously part of the inner Circle.teedubya is obviously part of the inner Circle.teedubya is obviously part of the inner Circle.teedubya is obviously part of the inner Circle.teedubya is obviously part of the inner Circle.teedubya is obviously part of the inner Circle.teedubya is obviously part of the inner Circle.teedubya is obviously part of the inner Circle.teedubya is obviously part of the inner Circle.teedubya is obviously part of the inner Circle.teedubya is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2008, 02:36 AM   #10
oaklandhater oaklandhater is offline
future chiefs fans
 
oaklandhater's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: oakland california
Casino cash: $5888993
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca View Post
You know how you know this team is jacked up?

The fact that we have to actually talk about if they'd be back or not after 0-16.
Exactly most of the fan's right now have zero faith in clark
Posts: 24,003
oaklandhater wants to die in a aids tree fire.oaklandhater wants to die in a aids tree fire.oaklandhater wants to die in a aids tree fire.oaklandhater wants to die in a aids tree fire.oaklandhater wants to die in a aids tree fire.oaklandhater wants to die in a aids tree fire.oaklandhater wants to die in a aids tree fire.oaklandhater wants to die in a aids tree fire.oaklandhater wants to die in a aids tree fire.oaklandhater wants to die in a aids tree fire.oaklandhater wants to die in a aids tree fire.
    Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2008, 02:53 AM   #11
ChiefJustice ChiefJustice is offline
The Stig
 
ChiefJustice's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: "Some say he has no home"
Casino cash: $10004900
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca View Post
And hey Every Rose Has Its Thorn was a rockin tune!

I think I just bit my tongue off.
__________________
Dante Hicks: But you hate people.
Randal Graves: Yes, but I love gatherings. Isn't it ironic?

Posts: 4,806
ChiefJustice is a favorite in the douche of the year contest.ChiefJustice is a favorite in the douche of the year contest.ChiefJustice is a favorite in the douche of the year contest.ChiefJustice is a favorite in the douche of the year contest.ChiefJustice is a favorite in the douche of the year contest.ChiefJustice is a favorite in the douche of the year contest.ChiefJustice is a favorite in the douche of the year contest.
    Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2008, 02:54 AM   #12
Mecca Mecca is offline
Hockey Town
 
Mecca's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Kansas City, Missouri
Casino cash: $-512950
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiefJustice View Post
I think I just bit my tongue off.
every rose has it's thorn...just like every night has it's dawn and every cowboy sings a sad sad song.
Posts: 115,257
Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2008, 02:57 AM   #13
ChiefJustice ChiefJustice is offline
The Stig
 
ChiefJustice's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: "Some say he has no home"
Casino cash: $10004900
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca View Post
every rose has it's thorn...just like every night has it's dawn and every cowboy sings a sad sad song.
A ballad does not "rock".

I don't care who sings it...most especially when sung by Poison,IMHO.
__________________
Dante Hicks: But you hate people.
Randal Graves: Yes, but I love gatherings. Isn't it ironic?

Posts: 4,806
ChiefJustice is a favorite in the douche of the year contest.ChiefJustice is a favorite in the douche of the year contest.ChiefJustice is a favorite in the douche of the year contest.ChiefJustice is a favorite in the douche of the year contest.ChiefJustice is a favorite in the douche of the year contest.ChiefJustice is a favorite in the douche of the year contest.ChiefJustice is a favorite in the douche of the year contest.
    Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2008, 03:01 AM   #14
Mecca Mecca is offline
Hockey Town
 
Mecca's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Kansas City, Missouri
Casino cash: $-512950
Hair metal is a fond memory.
Posts: 115,257
Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2008, 03:08 AM   #15
Micjones Micjones is offline
Whose house?
 
Micjones's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: KCMO
Casino cash: $10005180
My biggest fear is that Carl won't be fired, but asked to stay on as President.
Rendering him the new Jack Steadman who will end up hand-picking our next GM anyway.
Please don't let that happen Clark.
Posts: 15,344
Micjones 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliMicjones 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliMicjones 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliMicjones 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliMicjones 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliMicjones 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliMicjones 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliMicjones 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliMicjones 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliMicjones 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliMicjones 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitelli
    Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:42 AM.


This is a test for a client's site.
Fort Worth Texas Process Servers
Covering Arlington, Fort Worth, Grand Prairie and surrounding communities.
Tarrant County, Texas and Johnson County, Texas.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.