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Old 01-31-2011, 10:04 AM  
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A CB in the 1st or 2nd?

Stop one second with the gut reaction of "the secondary is fine, Flowers and Carr are good CB's and Arenas is a good nickle back." Maybe, maybe not.

The reason I'm asking is that last year after the Jets lost in the playoffs, Tannenbaum asked Ryan what he thought the team needed the most to continue to be competitive, and Rex said athletic, physical corners. He said to beat the Manning's, Rothlisberger's, Rivers' and Brady's you needed tough physical corners. Even though they had Revis, a decent pass D, and a struggling pass rush they brought in Cromartie and used a 1st round pick on Wilson.

Even though Flowers is solid, and Carr has his moments, should KC entertain using an early draft pick on a physical CB?
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Old 01-31-2011, 10:06 AM   #2
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Flowers is not "solid", he's one of the best CBs in the league.
Carr is a legit top 10-15 corner at this point as well.

If you think we need more CBs, fine, but don't sell short the best part of our team.
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Old 01-31-2011, 10:33 AM   #3
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I believe that they used a 1st round pick on Wilson because he was the BPA where they were.
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Old 01-31-2011, 10:38 AM   #4
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What the Jets need more than anything is help at OLB, DT, and NT.

If you can get after the QB, you don't need to cover for 5 seconds.
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Old 01-31-2011, 11:02 AM   #5
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It doesn't matter how good your coverage is... when you don't get any pressure on the QB, he's going to scan the field and dump the ball off to the RB coming out of the backfield for gains all day. See the Ravens playoff loss.
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Old 01-31-2011, 11:04 AM   #6
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This is another reason I hate that Arenas pick.

You drafted a corner in the ****ing 2nd last year. If you believe one of the Chiefs' starting corners isn't good enough, Arenas' draft position demands he's competing for that spot. Hence, no ****ing way you should need to draft a corner high this year.

If Pioli drafts a corner in the 1st or 2nd round this year it will be proof positive he's a colossal moron.
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Old 01-31-2011, 12:03 PM   #7
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2/3rds of our 3-4 DL are manned by street trash....and we've drafted something like 90000 CBs safeties and TEs in the last 2 years....


let's not do that anymore..
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Old 01-31-2011, 12:13 PM   #8
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What I find more interesting is the flawed logic Rex uses.

"to beat the Manning's, Rothlisberger's, Rivers' and Brady's you needed tough physical corners."

Wrong.

To beat the Manning's, Rothlisberger's, Rivers' and Brady's you need the next Manning, Rothlisberger, Rivers or Brady.

Simple as that.

No 2nd rounder could come in and take Carr's spot. He's a good CB.
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Old 01-31-2011, 12:23 PM   #9
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2/3rds of our 3-4 DL are manned by street trash....and we've drafted something like 90000 CBs safeties and TEs in the last 2 years....


let's not do that anymore..
You'd take a DE in the first?
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What I find more interesting is the flawed logic Rex uses.

"to beat the Manning's, Rothlisberger's, Rivers' and Brady's you needed tough physical corners."

Wrong.

To beat the Manning's, Rothlisberger's, Rivers' and Brady's you need the next Manning, Rothlisberger, Rivers or Brady.

Simple as that.

No 2nd rounder could come in and take Carr's spot. He's a good CB.
Interesting that you think Rex's logic is flawed when he has taken a completely rebuilt team to the AFC Championship his first two years.
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Old 01-31-2011, 12:36 PM   #11
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And what are the odds he can threepete you brain dead dipshit?
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I continue to claim that Carr is the single most underrated player on the roster.
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Old 01-31-2011, 01:05 PM   #13
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We also don't play a blitz heavy scheme. The Jets scheme is quite a bit different than ours, which is why they have a bigger need for CB's.
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You'd take a DE in the first?
over a CB, sure


but otherwise no, I would grab a NT though
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I continue to claim that Carr is the single most underrated player on the roster.
he changed my opinion this year...i hope we lock him up, you could argue he was more consistent than Flowers last half of the year, though he isn't as good in run support...
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