Chiefs QB Non-controversy

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 05:32 PM

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2016/1...and-the-qb-non

Since the bye week, Smith is throwing deep on 20 percent of his attempts. He is 4-for-13 for 120 yards, with one touchdown. A 30 percent completion rate might not sound like much, but that's what you expect from all quarterbacks in the league on deep balls. If anyone is consistently completing more than 40 percent, you get suspicious.

There is a slight discrepancy in the PFR and PFF deep ball definition. But for our purposes, this is negligible. Because the point is that the Chiefs did not start dialing it up more, or throwing it more, just because Foles was in the game. The game-plan was: let's challenge deep and focus on Kelce. Both Smith and Foles did just that. And both did it at a rate-per-attempt that would be among the most aggressive units in the league, if PFF's numbers are any indication.

Against the Colts, Smith was 4-of-5 for 66 yards to Travis Kelce. He targeted Kelce on 26 percent of attempts.
Foles was 3-of-5 for 35 yards to Travis Kelce. He targeted Kelce on 23 percent of attempts.

Alex Smith >> Foles > Bray

Foles can definitely beat the Jags by at least 10 if he plays smart. If he's gambling on these deep balls come Sunday without having a well-rounded game we could be in for a very, very rough afternoon.

eDave · 11-02-2016, 05:28 PM

Spamming the board.

**TimBone** · 11-02-2016, 05:29 PM

You're looking pretty insecure right now. We could have done without another thread.

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 11-02-2016, 05:30 PM

Just As DJLN has been saying all over the threads...

"This is why Smith sets interception records and completion records. A lot of people said Smith's low interception rate was unsustainable when he nearly set the NFL record in 2011. But they didn't understand that it was completely sustainable because it wasn't due to luck, or to some statistical anomaly, but due to scheme. Smith was throwing short. Those passes are easier to complete and less likely to be picked off. The reverse is true of guys who throw deep all the time. Low interception rates and high completion rates are unsustainable when you throw deep. If much of a QB's success is from the deep game, then that QB's success is also unsustainable."

Reerun_KC · 11-02-2016, 05:30 PM

Spamming and trying to stir up junk with more repetitive threads.

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 11-02-2016, 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eDave

Spamming the board.

Good article and a thread with a different take. Far from spam.

**Ming the Merciless** · 11-02-2016, 05:32 PM

Lol Foles had 4 deep bombs in one half

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 11-02-2016, 05:33 PM

sorry pawn you're going to need someone to quote your posts, you're on ignore.

**Ming the Merciless** · 11-02-2016, 05:33 PM

Also Foles and Smith have same interests rate (2.2%) for their career even though Foles throws deeper more

**Ming the Merciless** · 11-02-2016, 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

sorry pawn you're going to need someone to quote your posts, you're on ignore.

I could care less if you're to stupid to click 'view'

I'm still going to ridicule you

**Bowser** · 11-02-2016, 05:34 PM

Foles could go 30 for 34 for 435 yards and 5 TD's and he wouldn't usurp Alex as starter. So in that regard, yes - there is no QB controversy.

eDave · 11-02-2016, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pawnmower

Lol Foles had 4 deep bombs in one half

Yes. Anomaly as we knew that was open at first. Again, they planned for Smith. We've seen plenty of backups come in and do well for this very reason. In the long run, they settle back to the bottom. Same will happen with Foles.

Reerun_KC · 11-02-2016, 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eDave

Yes. Anomaly as we knew that was open at first. Again, they planned for Smith. We've seen plenty of backups come in and do well for this very reason. In the long run, they settle back to the bottom. Same will happen with Foles.

I see your point. This just proves that Andy isn't some offensive guru or QB genius.

Smith is at the bottom 3rd or worse each year. I really don't have any expectations that Foles will be any better in the end.

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 11-02-2016, 05:40 PM

Foles is easy to figure out as the season progresses with him as the starter. That's what makes him valuable to us as a bench player, we can wheel him out to win us games on a as needed basis. That's about all his ceiling is.

His last 7 games with the St. Louis Rams he was 2TD's to 9 INT's with a QB rating average < 60 despite a hot start to the year against a couple of great defenses in Seattle and Arizona

Someone tell me..has Smith EVER played a 7 game stretch of football with us that he gave this team absolutely no chance to win?

**SAUTO** · 11-02-2016, 05:41 PM

You're a ****ing idiot

11-02-2016, 05:26 PM
TigeRRUppeRRcut Banned Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: 19th Hole Casino cash: $10004725	QB Non-controversy http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2016/1...and-the-qb-non Since the bye week, Smith is throwing deep on 20 percent of his attempts. He is 4-for-13 for 120 yards, with one touchdown. A 30 percent completion rate might not sound like much, but that's what you expect from all quarterbacks in the league on deep balls. If anyone is consistently completing more than 40 percent, you get suspicious. There is a slight discrepancy in the PFR and PFF deep ball definition. But for our purposes, this is negligible. Because the point is that the Chiefs did not start dialing it up more, or throwing it more, just because Foles was in the game. The game-plan was: let's challenge deep and focus on Kelce. Both Smith and Foles did just that. And both did it at a rate-per-attempt that would be among the most aggressive units in the league, if PFF's numbers are any indication. Against the Colts, Smith was 4-of-5 for 66 yards to Travis Kelce. He targeted Kelce on 26 percent of attempts. Foles was 3-of-5 for 35 yards to Travis Kelce. He targeted Kelce on 23 percent of attempts. Alex Smith >> Foles > Bray Foles can definitely beat the Jags by at least 10 if he plays smart. If he's gambling on these deep balls come Sunday without having a well-rounded game we could be in for a very, very rough afternoon. Last edited by TigeRRUppeRRcut; 11-02-2016 at 05:32 PM..
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TigeRRUppeRRcut Banned Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: 19th Hole Casino cash: $10004725	Just As DJLN has been saying all over the threads... "This is why Smith sets interception records and completion records. A lot of people said Smith's low interception rate was unsustainable when he nearly set the NFL record in 2011. But they didn't understand that it was completely sustainable because it wasn't due to luck, or to some statistical anomaly, but due to scheme. Smith was throwing short. Those passes are easier to complete and less likely to be picked off. The reverse is true of guys who throw deep all the time. Low interception rates and high completion rates are unsustainable when you throw deep. If much of a QB's success is from the deep game, then that QB's success is also unsustainable."
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TigeRRUppeRRcut Banned Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: 19th Hole Casino cash: $10004725	Foles is easy to figure out as the season progresses with him as the starter. That's what makes him valuable to us as a bench player, we can wheel him out to win us games on a as needed basis. That's about all his ceiling is. His last 7 games with the St. Louis Rams he was 2TD's to 9 INT's with a QB rating average < 60 despite a hot start to the year against a couple of great defenses in Seattle and Arizona Someone tell me..has Smith EVER played a 7 game stretch of football with us that he gave this team absolutely no chance to win? Last edited by TigeRRUppeRRcut; 11-02-2016 at 05:45 PM..
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