Shula says Patriots could go 19-0

Coach · 10-06-2004, 10:36 PM

Shula says Patriots could go 19-0

By STEVEN WINE, AP Sports Writer
October 5, 2004
MIAMI (AP) -- Don Shula knows what it takes to achieve a perfect season, and he says the New England Patriots have a chance to do it.

On the other hand, Shula says, the winless Miami Dolphins have a shot at an upset Sunday at New England.

The Hall of Fame coach has a vested interest for two reasons. He led the Dolphins for 26 years and still roots for them, and his 1972-73 teams won 18 consecutive games, an NFL record the Patriots hope to break Sunday.

Four other teams share the record, but only Shula's 1972 Dolphins went 17-0. The Patriots need 16 more wins in a row for the second perfect season in league history, which would be 19-0.

``They've got a real shot at it,'' Shula said Tuesday. ``They've got to win a lot of games to do it, and tough teams down the road. But they certainly are a legitimate threat to do it. They're a team that's solid in every way, from ownership to coaching to the players.''

That's in contrast to the 2004 Dolphins, off to their worst start since their expansion season in 1966 with four consecutive losses.

It's a level of failure foreign to Shula, who holds the NFL record with 328 coaching victories. He never endured an 0-4 start in 33 years as a coach, and 16 times he had four losses or less the entire season.

``Obviously the Dolphins are 0-4 and not happy about that,'' he said. ``They haven't been able to put together any drives offensively. If they can get something together offensively, with the great defense they play, they've got a chance to win some games this year, and they've got a chance against New England.''

Shula has phoned embattled Miami coach Dave Wannstedt to offer encouragement and notes that the unexpected retirement of Ricky Williams and a wave of injuries have contributions to Miami's woes.

``A lot of tough things have happened to Dave,'' Shula said. ``Ricky Williams is a great player, no question. Why he made the decision to do what he's doing right now is something I'll never understand. But he made the decision, and that hurt Dave. He thinks he's set there, and all of sudden he doesn't have Ricky, and then the backups get hurt. And the quarterback situation hasn't been settled.

``It seems like everything that can go wrong is going wrong. Hopefully he'll be able to salvage the season and go from there.''

Maybe Wannstedt's luck is changing. Shortly after Shula spoke came word that Williams wants to rejoin the Dolphins and has asked the NFL how soon he can return.

As for the Patriots, Shula said there's no question they're the NFL's best team. He said their defense reminds him of the 1972 Dolphins, and coach Bill Belichick reminds him of Don Shula.

``The way he teaches and coaches, I believe there are a lot of similarities,'' Shula said. ``I give him credit for not letting all the outside influences interfere with his preparation.''

While Shula will be cheering Sunday for Miami, he said characterizations of the 1972 Dolphins celebrating each year when the last unbeaten team loses have been overblown.

``Our record is the perfect season,'' he said. ``That's a record we're very proud of and protect. But by the same token, if somebody does it, I'm going to be the first guy that calls to congratulate the coach that does it. And I'm sure our players will be the first in line to congratulate the players that do it.''

PastorMikH · 10-06-2004, 10:39 PM

They have to win at Arrowhead to do that. If this team keeps improving like it has so far, I don't see that happening.

Fairplay · 10-06-2004, 10:44 PM

Yes siree, the Patriots have a relatively easy schedule. To go on and meet the big NFC powerhouse the Philliys. Whos schedule is also kinda weak. Thats my early favorites to go to the SB at this time.

**Skip Towne** · 10-06-2004, 10:49 PM

I have the ultimate respect for Don Shula as a coach. But he needs to get real. The 'fins have NO chance of beating the Pats this week. I can't think of a team they can beat. Well...OK...I'll give you SF.

Coach · 10-06-2004, 10:53 PM

You know what, I would love the Pats to come to Arrowhead undefeated. You know our track record is when an undefeated team comes to Arrowhead.

Frazod · 10-06-2004, 11:01 PM

Whatever.

Coach · 10-06-2004, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod

Whatever.

Uh, forgive me, since it's late and all that, but are ya saying Whatever in reference to Coach Shula?

Frazod · 10-06-2004, 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach

Uh, forgive me, since it's late and all that, but are ya saying Whatever in reference to Coach Shula?

Yes.

Coach · 10-06-2004, 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod

Yes.

Very well then. And I agree. Apparently Coach Shula have been haning out with Ricky Williams and doing

Frazod · 10-06-2004, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach

Very well then. And I agree. Apparently Coach Shula have been haning out with Ricky Williams and doing

Somebody's gonna knock them off. Whoever the current SB champ is ALWAYS gets the opposition's best game.

**Skip Towne** · 10-06-2004, 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach

You know what, I would love the Pats to come to Arrowhead undefeated. You know our track record is when an undefeated team comes to Arrowhead.

I'm not aware of any track record we have against undefeated teams coming into Arrowhead. But I'm old and slow. Please enlighten me.

Coach · 10-06-2004, 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skip Towne

I'm not aware of any track record we have against undefeated teams coming into Arrowhead. But I'm old and slow. Please enlighten me.

Well there are numberous of them, but I'd have to search them up.

A recent example would be the Rams in 2000. Gimmie a few to dig up.

Coach · 10-06-2004, 11:23 PM

Teams with a 3-0 record or better at Arrowhead.

Denver was 4-0 last year. Lost.
MIami was 3-0 in 2002. Lost.
St. Louis was 6-0 in 2000. Lost.
New England was 4-0 in 1999. Lost.

Last team to do so was Denver in 1998.

Amnorix · 10-07-2004, 05:52 AM

"Could" go 19-0, sure.

"will", or "are likely to", or "have a really good chance of" going 19-0. Definitely not.

Gaz · 10-07-2004, 05:56 AM

Good team, friendly schedule.

It could happen.

xoxo~
Gaz
Conflicted as to whether or not that would be a good thing.

10-06-2004, 10:36 PM
Coach Champs! Join Date: Mar 2004 Casino cash: $3788476	Shula says Patriots could go 19-0 Shula says Patriots could go 19-0 By STEVEN WINE, AP Sports Writer October 5, 2004 MIAMI (AP) -- Don Shula knows what it takes to achieve a perfect season, and he says the New England Patriots have a chance to do it. On the other hand, Shula says, the winless Miami Dolphins have a shot at an upset Sunday at New England. The Hall of Fame coach has a vested interest for two reasons. He led the Dolphins for 26 years and still roots for them, and his 1972-73 teams won 18 consecutive games, an NFL record the Patriots hope to break Sunday. Four other teams share the record, but only Shula's 1972 Dolphins went 17-0. The Patriots need 16 more wins in a row for the second perfect season in league history, which would be 19-0. ``They've got a real shot at it,'' Shula said Tuesday. ``They've got to win a lot of games to do it, and tough teams down the road. But they certainly are a legitimate threat to do it. They're a team that's solid in every way, from ownership to coaching to the players.'' That's in contrast to the 2004 Dolphins, off to their worst start since their expansion season in 1966 with four consecutive losses. It's a level of failure foreign to Shula, who holds the NFL record with 328 coaching victories. He never endured an 0-4 start in 33 years as a coach, and 16 times he had four losses or less the entire season. ``Obviously the Dolphins are 0-4 and not happy about that,'' he said. ``They haven't been able to put together any drives offensively. If they can get something together offensively, with the great defense they play, they've got a chance to win some games this year, and they've got a chance against New England.'' Shula has phoned embattled Miami coach Dave Wannstedt to offer encouragement and notes that the unexpected retirement of Ricky Williams and a wave of injuries have contributions to Miami's woes. ``A lot of tough things have happened to Dave,'' Shula said. ``Ricky Williams is a great player, no question. Why he made the decision to do what he's doing right now is something I'll never understand. But he made the decision, and that hurt Dave. He thinks he's set there, and all of sudden he doesn't have Ricky, and then the backups get hurt. And the quarterback situation hasn't been settled. ``It seems like everything that can go wrong is going wrong. Hopefully he'll be able to salvage the season and go from there.'' Maybe Wannstedt's luck is changing. Shortly after Shula spoke came word that Williams wants to rejoin the Dolphins and has asked the NFL how soon he can return. As for the Patriots, Shula said there's no question they're the NFL's best team. He said their defense reminds him of the 1972 Dolphins, and coach Bill Belichick reminds him of Don Shula. ``The way he teaches and coaches, I believe there are a lot of similarities,'' Shula said. ``I give him credit for not letting all the outside influences interfere with his preparation.'' While Shula will be cheering Sunday for Miami, he said characterizations of the 1972 Dolphins celebrating each year when the last unbeaten team loses have been overblown. ``Our record is the perfect season,'' he said. ``That's a record we're very proud of and protect. But by the same token, if somebody does it, I'm going to be the first guy that calls to congratulate the coach that does it. And I'm sure our players will be the first in line to congratulate the players that do it.''
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Fairplay A certain set of skills Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: texas Casino cash: $10026683 VARSITY	Yes siree, the Patriots have a relatively easy schedule. To go on and meet the big NFC powerhouse the Philliys. Whos schedule is also kinda weak. Thats my early favorites to go to the SB at this time.
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Skip Towne Supporter Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: T-Town Casino cash: $10004900	I have the ultimate respect for Don Shula as a coach. But he needs to get real. The 'fins have NO chance of beating the Pats this week. I can't think of a team they can beat. Well...OK...I'll give you SF.
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