LJ's first mistake was...

shaneo69 · 10-20-2004, 08:47 AM

hiring Carl's buddy Marvin Demoff to be his agent. That pretty much sealed the fact that the Chiefs were going to draft him, because Carl knew that Demoff would convince LJ to sign the first contract offer that Carl made, and there would be no messy holdout.

There's no way Carl drafts LJ if the agent is Ethan Locke, Jim Steiner, Hadley Engelhard, or one of the Postons.

How would this situation have been different had Drew Rosenhaus been the agent? Rosenhaus would have fought the verbal battle against DV for the "diaper" comment, and LJ could've remained in the background. There was no comment at all from Demoff on the whole situation. Nice job, Marv.

And way before now, Rosenhaus would have been demanding a trade after seeing LJ stuck behind Derrick Blaylock on the bench. Rosenhaus would have been asking for permission to work out a trade with other teams, like he did with Portis. Again, has Demoff been any help in this situation? No, he just leaves LJ out to dry, and all because he's Carl's buddy.

LJ should've fired this joker long ago, and now he just keeps on getting humiliated while Demoff hides in the background.

**Skip Towne** · 10-20-2004, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by shaneo69

hiring Carl's buddy Marvin Demoff to be his agent. That pretty much sealed the fact that the Chiefs were going to draft him, because Carl knew that Demoff would convince LJ to sign the first contract offer that Carl made, and there would be no messy holdout.

There's no way Carl drafts LJ if the agent is Ethan Locke, Jim Steiner, Hadley Engelhard, or one of the Postons.

How would this situation have been different had Drew Rosenhaus been the agent? Rosenhaus would have fought the verbal battle against DV for the "diaper" comment, and LJ could've remained in the background. There was no comment at all from Demoff on the whole situation. Nice job, Marv.

And way before now, Rosenhaus would have been demanding a trade after seeing LJ stuck behind Derrick Blaylock on the bench. Rosenhaus would have been asking for permission to work out a trade with other teams, like he did with Portis. Again, has Demoff been any help in this situation? No, he just leaves LJ out to dry, and all because he's Carl's buddy.

LJ should've fired this joker long ago, and now he just keeps on getting humiliated while Demoff hides in the background.

Good point.

jspchief · 10-20-2004, 08:52 AM

Interesting angle. You're right though, a good agent would be battling, because it affects his bottom line as well.

The entire situation just makes me sick.

ROYC75 · 10-20-2004, 08:56 AM

Good points ...

**Bowser** · 10-20-2004, 08:58 AM

I bet LJ's dad has called up Carl, kicking and screaming............

Chiefnj · 10-20-2004, 09:34 AM

It's true. An aggressive agent would have tried very hard publicly to force a trade. The fans might end up resenting the player, but it would be better off for his client.

**Iowanian** · 10-20-2004, 09:36 AM

One of the things that makes me the maddest about this situation..........

Johnson, out of the draft knew he was behind Priest...........He got an amicable agent, signed for a very reasonable contract price, quickly, and was in Camp early.................and Vermeil has been treating him like a Brown Peanut Pickle since day 1.

Chiefnj · 10-20-2004, 09:41 AM

Iowanian brings up a good point. Peterson and Hunt met Johnson at the Heisman awards and were very pleased with his character and integrity. They made note of this when they drafted him and when they signed him. Now a year and a half later DV wants everyone to believe the kid is a cancer.

**Bowser** · 10-20-2004, 09:41 AM

I agree with Shane, but his first, FIRST mistake was to choose to be a running back at Penn State.

**alpha_omega** · 10-20-2004, 09:57 AM

Interesting points about the agent....but I would say LJ's first mistake was...

Not beating out Blaylock for the #2 RB slot! If he could actually beat out Derrick Blaylock, this would be a non-issue.

Brock · 10-20-2004, 10:13 AM

Poor, poor LJ, the abused millionaire.

**Skip Towne** · 10-20-2004, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian

One of the things that makes me the maddest about this situation..........

Johnson, out of the draft knew he was behind Priest...........He got an amicable agent, signed for a very reasonable contract price, quickly, and was in Camp early.................and Vermeil has been treating him like a Brown Peanut Pickle since day 1.

Absolutely right. I'd give you rep but.....you know.

htismaqe · 10-20-2004, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by alpha_omega

Interesting points about the agent....but I would say LJ's first mistake was...

Not beating out Blaylock for the #2 RB slot! If he could actually beat out Derrick Blaylock, this would be a non-issue.

Yeah...

I mean you spend all that time with the team -- you know that Blaylock actually WON the job through skill rather than by the virtue that he was a coveted Dick Vermeil draft pick...

jspchief · 10-20-2004, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by alpha_omega

Interesting points about the agent....but I would say LJ's first mistake was...

Not beating out Blaylock for the #2 RB slot! If he could actually beat out Derrick Blaylock, this would be a non-issue.

Kind of like how Holmes was a failure for never "earning " his way into a starting role.

royr17 · 10-20-2004, 11:42 AM

I dont understand all i heard from training camp was that LJ is the # 2 guy behind priest and through preseason but when the season gets here he goes from # 2 to # 3, how in the world, and all i heard through training camp and preseason is about how well LJ has been doing how his attitude had changed how he had won the backup role to priest.

So can someone tell me, what in the bleep went on between than and now to demote him to # 3 on the depth chart.

Is it DV's love for Blaylock and not Johnson ? What is it ?

10-20-2004, 08:47 AM
shaneo69 Smug Weasel Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Bleachers at Busch Casino cash: $10004900	LJ's first mistake was... hiring Carl's buddy Marvin Demoff to be his agent. That pretty much sealed the fact that the Chiefs were going to draft him, because Carl knew that Demoff would convince LJ to sign the first contract offer that Carl made, and there would be no messy holdout. There's no way Carl drafts LJ if the agent is Ethan Locke, Jim Steiner, Hadley Engelhard, or one of the Postons. How would this situation have been different had Drew Rosenhaus been the agent? Rosenhaus would have fought the verbal battle against DV for the "diaper" comment, and LJ could've remained in the background. There was no comment at all from Demoff on the whole situation. Nice job, Marv. And way before now, Rosenhaus would have been demanding a trade after seeing LJ stuck behind Derrick Blaylock on the bench. Rosenhaus would have been asking for permission to work out a trade with other teams, like he did with Portis. Again, has Demoff been any help in this situation? No, he just leaves LJ out to dry, and all because he's Carl's buddy. LJ should've fired this joker long ago, and now he just keeps on getting humiliated while Demoff hides in the background.
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10-20-2004, 08:52 AM	#3
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10-20-2004, 09:34 AM	#6
Chiefnj MVP Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Willis, Harris and Davis. Casino cash: $10004900	It's true. An aggressive agent would have tried very hard publicly to force a trade. The fans might end up resenting the player, but it would be better off for his client. __________________ "I always tell (the assistant coaches), 'Make it simple, 'cause I'm stupid,'" Edwards said. "This ain't computer football." Herm Edwards, 3-20-07 Q: Herm, back on December 25th you were asked if Trent Green was your starter going into next season and you said, ‘yeah, why wouldn’t he be?’ Have you changed your mind on that? EDWARDS: No, I have not.” (1-11-07)
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10-20-2004, 09:36 AM	#7
Iowanian Supporter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Utopia Casino cash: $1698454	One of the things that makes me the maddest about this situation.......... Johnson, out of the draft knew he was behind Priest...........He got an amicable agent, signed for a very reasonable contract price, quickly, and was in Camp early.................and Vermeil has been treating him like a Brown Peanut Pickle since day 1.
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10-20-2004, 09:41 AM	#8
Chiefnj MVP Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Willis, Harris and Davis. Casino cash: $10004900	Iowanian brings up a good point. Peterson and Hunt met Johnson at the Heisman awards and were very pleased with his character and integrity. They made note of this when they drafted him and when they signed him. Now a year and a half later DV wants everyone to believe the kid is a cancer. __________________ "I always tell (the assistant coaches), 'Make it simple, 'cause I'm stupid,'" Edwards said. "This ain't computer football." Herm Edwards, 3-20-07 Q: Herm, back on December 25th you were asked if Trent Green was your starter going into next season and you said, ‘yeah, why wouldn’t he be?’ Have you changed your mind on that? EDWARDS: No, I have not.” (1-11-07)
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10-20-2004, 09:57 AM	#10
alpha_omega Supporter Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Liberty Casino cash: $-1740000	Interesting points about the agent....but I would say LJ's first mistake was... Not beating out Blaylock for the #2 RB slot! If he could actually beat out Derrick Blaylock, this would be a non-issue.
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royr17 MVP Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Lovin my kids Casino cash: $-1601324	I dont understand all i heard from training camp was that LJ is the # 2 guy behind priest and through preseason but when the season gets here he goes from # 2 to # 3, how in the world, and all i heard through training camp and preseason is about how well LJ has been doing how his attitude had changed how he had won the backup role to priest. So can someone tell me, what in the bleep went on between than and now to demote him to # 3 on the depth chart. Is it DV's love for Blaylock and not Johnson ? What is it ? Last edited by royr17; 10-20-2004 at 11:51 AM..
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