Surtain trade do you really believe???

Logical · 04-13-2005, 01:35 PM

That it will not take this years second?

Bootlegged · 04-13-2005, 01:42 PM

I don't see it happening at all. I believe another draft pick rich team will offer this years 2nd and 4th and 5th for Surtain. I'll be shocked if he's a Chief.

Chan93lx50 · 04-13-2005, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Lattimer

I don't see it happening at all. I believe another draft pick rich team will offer this years 2nd and 4th and 5th for Surtain. I'll be shocked if he's a Chief.

Its sad to say, but I have to agree!

Logical · 04-13-2005, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Lattimer

I don't see it happening at all. I believe another draft pick rich team will offer this years 2nd and 4th and 5th for Surtain. I'll be shocked if he's a Chief.

I considered that option but knowing how most people feel about Carl I figured it would be a landslide choice. I would vote like you based on Carl.

BigChiefFan · 04-13-2005, 01:48 PM

I think it WILL happen. The reason being is, most trades for picks happen on DRAFT DAY. I think our plan is to use the 15th overall pick on a draft choice and then when we get on the clock with our 2nd rounder we trade down and ship one of the newly acquired picks to the fins.

Eleazar · 04-13-2005, 01:53 PM

I think he's definitely worth a 2nd, but I doubt if we get him now.

If Carl was going to offer them a 2nd he would have done it by now, especially after reaching an agreement for an extension. It's obvious that he doesn't feel he's worth a second round pick; Saban said he wasn't dealing him for less. One of them will have to blink for it to happen.

While Carl is playing hardball, offering a 5th or something, another team will swoop in and offer the asking price, and we'll lose him. Sounds familiar.

Mr. Laz · 04-13-2005, 01:55 PM

i would not be surprised in the least to see it be more than a 2nd round pick.

isn't the willie roaf trade the only one that we haven't gotten bent over with?

CHIEF4EVER · 04-13-2005, 01:57 PM

Carl will likely end up blinking in the end but there is no sense in doing so now.

Archie Bunker · 04-13-2005, 02:02 PM

Its not going to happen period. Saban is just as tough a SOB as Carl. If it did happen would take the 2nd.

Wile_E_Coyote · 04-13-2005, 02:04 PM

Saban will say how is Warfield doing? Carl will say how about that #46? Saban will say deal

carlos3652 · 04-13-2005, 03:12 PM

Fins predction over at fin heaven:

http://www.finheaven.com/boardvb2/sh...84#post1119884

**Tribal Warfare** · 04-13-2005, 05:00 PM

The Dolphin fans are trying to squeeze as much of this as possible 2 1st rounders my ass

DTLB58 · 04-13-2005, 05:09 PM

Just remember all the talk between Carl and Saban is no different than teams talking about who they are going or not going to draft. It's all B.S.! They are just trying to get the best deal possible for their respective teams.

I think Carl knows how important this is for this team, unless he is convinced Law will fully recover and we can get him, otherwise I say the trade will get done, but no sooner than draft day.

whoman69 · 04-13-2005, 05:51 PM

Let's see a list of all those teams lining up to get more than the 4th rounder that we offered.

Oh yeah, here it is:

Kind of looks like the number of prime QBs we've drafted throughout our history.

keg in kc · 04-13-2005, 06:07 PM

Teicher said it best. Neither team's in a rush. It's in our best interest to wait and see if they'll take less than a second, and it's in their best interest to wait and see if we'll offer more than a fourth.

As for what I really believe??? well, I believe the same thing I've believed since early March. It'll get done. It'll happen at the end of next week or the day of the draft. It might take the second, it might not. And I don't care that we're waiting. It's what I'd do.

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Bootlegged One4Mahomes Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: f Casino cash: $9955545	I don't see it happening at all. I believe another draft pick rich team will offer this years 2nd and 4th and 5th for Surtain. I'll be shocked if he's a Chief.
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BigChiefFan MVP Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: In the Top 10 Casino cash: $9924205	I think it WILL happen. The reason being is, most trades for picks happen on DRAFT DAY. I think our plan is to use the 15th overall pick on a draft choice and then when we get on the clock with our 2nd rounder we trade down and ship one of the newly acquired picks to the fins. __________________ A 35 year drought can make you thirsty.
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04-13-2005, 01:53 PM	#6
Eleazar Beyond the Rapids Join Date: May 2003 Location: Langley, VA Casino cash: $-370000	I think he's definitely worth a 2nd, but I doubt if we get him now. If Carl was going to offer them a 2nd he would have done it by now, especially after reaching an agreement for an extension. It's obvious that he doesn't feel he's worth a second round pick; Saban said he wasn't dealing him for less. One of them will have to blink for it to happen. While Carl is playing hardball, offering a 5th or something, another team will swoop in and offer the asking price, and we'll lose him. Sounds familiar.
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Mr. Laz Don't Tease Me Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: KS Casino cash: $11047037	i would not be surprised in the least to see it be more than a 2nd round pick. isn't the willie roaf trade the only one that we haven't gotten bent over with? __________________
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CHIEF4EVER Just a man in the 'ghan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Jalalabad, Afghanistan Casino cash: $10004900	Carl will likely end up blinking in the end but there is no sense in doing so now. __________________ "Igitur qui deciderat pacem, praeparatur bellum" -Flavius Vegetius Renatus
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Archie Bunker The Wait Is Over Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Random Small Town Casino cash: $-701022	Its not going to happen period. Saban is just as tough a SOB as Carl. If it did happen would take the 2nd.
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Wile_E_Coyote avatar down for remodel Join Date: Jul 2001 Casino cash: $10004900	Saban will say how is Warfield doing? Carl will say how about that #46? Saban will say deal
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Tribal Warfare Man of Culture Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Far Beyond Comprehension Casino cash: $-2797187	The Dolphin fans are trying to squeeze as much of this as possible 2 1st rounders my ass __________________
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04-13-2005, 05:09 PM	#13
DTLB58 DT CARD COLLECTOR Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: ManCave Casino cash: $10005837	Just remember all the talk between Carl and Saban is no different than teams talking about who they are going or not going to draft. It's all B.S.! They are just trying to get the best deal possible for their respective teams. I think Carl knows how important this is for this team, unless he is convinced Law will fully recover and we can get him, otherwise I say the trade will get done, but no sooner than draft day. __________________ 667 Different DT cards and counting
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04-13-2005, 06:07 PM	#15
keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	Teicher said it best. Neither team's in a rush. It's in our best interest to wait and see if they'll take less than a second, and it's in their best interest to wait and see if we'll offer more than a fourth. As for what I really believe??? well, I believe the same thing I've believed since early March. It'll get done. It'll happen at the end of next week or the day of the draft. It might take the second, it might not. And I don't care that we're waiting. It's what I'd do.
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