Arbitrator who decided on Owens case to be dismissed by NFLPA

Mecca · 11-23-2005, 02:44 PM

Gene Upshaw commented that he "interpreted the rule wrong and added on to the agreement things that weren't there". Then went on to say a person like that can't be an arbitrator.

So Richard Bloch is out of a job due to his decision.

**morphius** · 11-23-2005, 02:46 PM

They are angry because they killed the apeal before they could even launch it, costing the NFLPA's lawyers lots of money.

**dirk digler** · 11-23-2005, 03:05 PM

Poor NFLPA. Now they are going to take their ball and run home to mommy.

Extra Point · 11-23-2005, 04:53 PM

F### U-nion.

TrueBeliever · 11-23-2005, 05:04 PM

Maybe Bloch wanted a paid vacation, so he did this on purpose just to get fired and collect a severance and/or unemployment.

Seriously, I was surprised to learn that the union hires the arbitrators. How can you expect a guy to be objective when his paycheck comes from one of the two sides in the argument?

old_geezer · 11-23-2005, 07:22 PM

There is something seriously wrong with this picture. How can an arbitrator be "impartial" if he knows he will be fired if he makes a decision that angers one of the parties involved? There needs to be a complete overhaul of the system to make sure the arbitrator can be impartial without fear of job loss.

OldTownChief · 11-23-2005, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by old_geezer

There is something seriously wrong with this picture. How can an arbitrator be "impartial" if he knows he will be fired if he makes a decision that angers one of the parties involved? There needs to be a complete overhaul of the system to make sure the arbitrator can be impartial without fear of job loss.

yep

Mecca · 11-23-2005, 07:33 PM

What I gather is, according to Gene Upshaw. He interpreted things into the grievance on behalf of the Eagles that are not in the collective bargaining agreement. That is why the NFLPA is pissed at the guy and getting rid of him.

OldTownChief · 11-23-2005, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

What I gather is, according to Gene Upshaw. He interpreted things into the grievance on behalf of the Eagles that are not in the collective bargaining agreement. That is why the NFLPA is pissed at the guy and getting rid of him.

Do we know what "things"?

Zebedee DuBois · 11-23-2005, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by OldTownChief

Do we know what "things"?

Things.....you know....things.

Unmentionable things.

Silky, lacy, sheer unmentionable things.

ROYC75 · 11-23-2005, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Zebedee DuBois

Things.....you know....things.

Unmentionable things.

Silky, lacy, sheer unmentionable things.

Oh and don't forget that thingy-ma-jig too !

OldTownChief · 11-23-2005, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ROYC75

Oh and don't forget that thingy-ma-jig too !

Gizmos?

**BigMeatballDave** · 11-23-2005, 10:43 PM

Thats mature. You don't get it your way, so you fire the guy...

philfree · 11-23-2005, 10:58 PM

I can't understand why the NFLPA wants T.O. around? He's a huge jerk and sheds bad light on all NFL players IMO. He got what he deserved IMO. Maybe Upshaw should be replaced.

PhilFree

chagrin · 11-23-2005, 10:59 PM

This is the same arbitrator that was a season ticket holder for Redskins games, and he was involved in a big dispute a few years ago, for a player that I think played for Washington, the NFLPA didn't have a problem with that at the time.

I am glad to see this end for now.

11-23-2005, 02:44 PM
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-662950	Arbitrator who decided on Owens case to be dismissed by NFLPA Gene Upshaw commented that he "interpreted the rule wrong and added on to the agreement things that weren't there". Then went on to say a person like that can't be an arbitrator. So Richard Bloch is out of a job due to his decision.
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11-23-2005, 02:46 PM	#2
morphius World's finest morphius Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $5765027	They are angry because they killed the apeal before they could even launch it, costing the NFLPA's lawyers lots of money.
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dirk digler Please squeeze Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Clinton, MO Casino cash: $164644	Poor NFLPA. Now they are going to take their ball and run home to mommy.
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TrueBeliever Rookie Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Wisconsin, eh Casino cash: $10004900	Maybe Bloch wanted a paid vacation, so he did this on purpose just to get fired and collect a severance and/or unemployment. Seriously, I was surprised to learn that the union hires the arbitrators. How can you expect a guy to be objective when his paycheck comes from one of the two sides in the argument?
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11-23-2005, 07:22 PM	#6
old_geezer bite me Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Windsor, Mo. Casino cash: $-2365262	There is something seriously wrong with this picture. How can an arbitrator be "impartial" if he knows he will be fired if he makes a decision that angers one of the parties involved? There needs to be a complete overhaul of the system to make sure the arbitrator can be impartial without fear of job loss. __________________ If you can see Chuck Norris, he can see you. If you can't see Chuck Norris you may be only seconds away from death.
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11-23-2005, 07:33 PM	#8
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-662950	What I gather is, according to Gene Upshaw. He interpreted things into the grievance on behalf of the Eagles that are not in the collective bargaining agreement. That is why the NFLPA is pissed at the guy and getting rid of him.
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BigMeatballDave GBM 8-12-15 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Dayton, Oh. Casino cash: $10052154	Thats mature. You don't get it your way, so you fire the guy...
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11-23-2005, 10:59 PM	#15
chagrin Giggitty! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Missoula, Mt Casino cash: $9804905	This is the same arbitrator that was a season ticket holder for Redskins games, and he was involved in a big dispute a few years ago, for a player that I think played for Washington, the NFLPA didn't have a problem with that at the time. I am glad to see this end for now. __________________ Times have changed, so have I, things are better now.
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