Is Croyle injury prone? Or a victim of bad luck?

**BigRedChief** · 12-26-2007, 07:18 AM

For me, it's not what happend in the last 5 games. It's the history of being injury proned.

2001 he tore an ACL in his first game of his senior year in high school.

2002 He reshirted and didn't play football at Bama.

2003 at Bama, numerous serious injuries

2004 tore an ACL in the 3rd game of the season.

2005 played his first and only full season without injury.

2006 didn't play much

2007 in 5 games has been injured twice. Missing a start for the first one. 2nd one still TBD.

I'm sorry but thats a pattern. You can call it bad luck, concindence whatever....but it has to be a valid reason for concern.

BTW, totally unrelated but I found interesting. Brodie's myspace webpage:
http://www.myspace.com/brodie_croyle

Deberg_1990 · 12-26-2007, 08:53 AM

Thats alot of bad luck.

Too much bad luke for my liking. If franchise QB is there when the Chiefs pick, i dont see how they can pass??

**BigRedChief** · 12-26-2007, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Romo_2007

Thats alot of bad luck.

Too much bad luke for my liking. If franchise QB is there when the Chiefs pick, i dont see how they can pass??

I'm not advocating taking a QOTF with our 1st rounder nor am I saying Croyle isn't the QOTF. Nor am I saying we have seen enough to evaluate whether he's good enough to be the QOTF.

All I'm saying is that there is significant historical evidence to suggest that maybe he won't be able to finish an NFL season. Ever. And if thats a possibility then it needs to be considered when you can consider Croyle for the QOTF.

Deberg_1990 · 12-26-2007, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

I'm not advocating taking a QOTF with our 1st rounder nor am I saying Croyle isn't the QOTF. Nor am I saying we have seen enough to evaluate whether he's good enough to be the QOTF.

All I'm saying is that there is significant historical evidence to suggest that maybe he won't be able to finish an NFL season. Ever. And if thats a possibility then it needs to be considered when you can consider Croyle for the QOTF.

Exactly. The Chiefs are going to have a tough decision to make with that first pick. They have tons of needs, but a franchise QB is what you build your team around from the ground up.

**morphius** · 12-26-2007, 09:13 AM

I like the kids arm, but I don't think you can count on him to stay healthy. It is a shame, but as is our luck, we have someone with potential who will never be healthy enough to use it. Doesn't help that we lost our other project player to IR already. What a flippin mess.

**Bob Dole** · 12-26-2007, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Romo_2007

Thats alot of bad luck.

Too much bad luke for my liking. If franchise QB is there when the Chiefs pick, i dont see how they can pass??

No way we draft his replacement this season.

Build an offensive line and figure out next year whether Croyle can stay healthy and play NFL ball. We're going to need a line no matter who is taking the snaps, and there's just not enough game experience with Croyle to determine whether he's got it or not at this point.

If he's good, you avoid a potential Rivers/Brees situation. And if he sucks, we've got a high pick in a 2009 draft which looks to have some good QB talent.

Archie Bunker · 12-26-2007, 09:49 AM

Career backup QB IMO he is fragile and too small. I'd give him next year to prove me wrong and then go another direction if need be.

talastan · 12-26-2007, 10:16 AM

No we will not draft a QB in the first round....Herm has already commented about building this team around Croyle. I think he gets one more year to play behind an actual offensive line, not some patchwork POS, and then if he can't cut it we draft a QB. (Chances are if he's stinking up the joint then we'll get a high pick next year as well.)

**BigRedChief** · 12-26-2007, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob Dole

No way we draft his replacement this season.

Build an offensive line and figure out next year whether Croyle can stay healthy and play NFL ball. We're going to need a line no matter who is taking the snaps, and there's just not enough game experience with Croyle to determine whether he's got it or not at this point.

If he's good, you avoid a potential Rivers/Brees situation. And if he sucks, we've got a high pick in a 2009 draft which looks to have some good QB talent.

I agree with the esteemed senator from Kansas.

We need O-Line help no matter who's the QOTF.

sedated · 12-26-2007, 10:22 AM

I'll bet every injury prone athlete has claimed to be the victim of bad luck

Extra Point · 12-26-2007, 10:30 AM

Don't know what the FO was thinking, other than "Boy, that pass to Prothro was neat!"

With that long of an injury string, the Croyle pick goes down as another mistake, unless they can build a line around him (or anyone) for 2009.

2008 will be another ride in a rut.

**Bowser** · 12-26-2007, 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Dole

No way we draft his replacement this season.

Build an offensive line and figure out next year whether Croyle can stay healthy and play NFL ball. We're going to need a line no matter who is taking the snaps, and there's just not enough game experience with Croyle to determine whether he's got it or not at this point.

If he's good, you avoid a potential Rivers/Brees situation. And if he sucks, we've got a high pick in a 2009 draft which looks to have some good QB talent.

This is the way it should be done, meaning of course we'll take Matt Ryan at #4 or 5.

I voted combination, but I lean more towards him being injury prone with just a little bit of bad luck.

StcChief · 12-26-2007, 10:35 AM

Starts up front build the Oline

dj56dt58 · 12-26-2007, 11:22 AM

read one of his comments from the myspace page..talking about the colts game they said if he had a better d he would have won...

we gave up 13 ****ing points and made Manning look average..wtf?

blueballs · 12-26-2007, 11:27 AM

He was worth a 3rd round pick regardless
and considering the CHiefs actuallly took a shot
at drafting a QB -rewarding to watch

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12-26-2007, 07:18 AM
BigRedChief Has a particular set of skills Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: On the water Casino cash: $-571038 VARSITY	Is Croyle injury prone? Or a victim of bad luck? For me, it's not what happend in the last 5 games. It's the history of being injury proned. 2001 he tore an ACL in his first game of his senior year in high school. 2002 He reshirted and didn't play football at Bama. 2003 at Bama, numerous serious injuries 2004 tore an ACL in the 3rd game of the season. 2005 played his first and only full season without injury. 2006 didn't play much 2007 in 5 games has been injured twice. Missing a start for the first one. 2nd one still TBD. I'm sorry but thats a pattern. You can call it bad luck, concindence whatever....but it has to be a valid reason for concern. BTW, totally unrelated but I found interesting. Brodie's myspace webpage: http://www.myspace.com/brodie_croyle
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12-26-2007, 08:53 AM	#2
Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $324454	Thats alot of bad luck. Too much bad luke for my liking. If franchise QB is there when the Chiefs pick, i dont see how they can pass?? __________________ Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning: Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down. One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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12-26-2007, 09:13 AM	#5
morphius World's finest morphius Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $5845027	I like the kids arm, but I don't think you can count on him to stay healthy. It is a shame, but as is our luck, we have someone with potential who will never be healthy enough to use it. Doesn't help that we lost our other project player to IR already. What a flippin mess.
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12-26-2007, 09:49 AM	#7
Archie Bunker The Wait Is Over Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Random Small Town Casino cash: $-701022	Career backup QB IMO he is fragile and too small. I'd give him next year to prove me wrong and then go another direction if need be.
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12-26-2007, 10:16 AM	#8
talastan Manning, we're coming for you! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Springfield, Mo Casino cash: $10004950	No we will not draft a QB in the first round....Herm has already commented about building this team around Croyle. I think he gets one more year to play behind an actual offensive line, not some patchwork POS, and then if he can't cut it we draft a QB. (Chances are if he's stinking up the joint then we'll get a high pick next year as well.) __________________ Can we please just draft AND DEVELOP a QB - est. since 1983 Check out my band: Truett and the Traitors
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12-26-2007, 10:30 AM	#11
Extra Point MVP Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Prairie Village, KS Casino cash: $10004900	Don't know what the FO was thinking, other than "Boy, that pass to Prothro was neat!" With that long of an injury string, the Croyle pick goes down as another mistake, unless they can build a line around him (or anyone) for 2009. 2008 will be another ride in a rut. __________________ "Sometimes I sits and thinks, and sometimes I just sits." --Satchel Paige
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12-26-2007, 10:35 AM	#13
StcChief Playing for #1 Draft Pick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Just West of Lambs land Casino cash: $10004900	Starts up front build the Oline
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12-26-2007, 11:22 AM	#14
dj56dt58 Banned Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Missouri Casino cash: $9960055	read one of his comments from the myspace page..talking about the colts game they said if he had a better d he would have won... we gave up 13 ****ing points and made Manning look average..wtf?
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12-26-2007, 11:27 AM	#15
blueballs Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Casino cash: $10004900	He was worth a 3rd round pick regardless and considering the CHiefs actuallly took a shot at drafting a QB -rewarding to watch
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