Why we must be born again and why Jesus is the only way to Salvation

Believer · 01-29-2007, 08:10 PM

since the other thread was hijacked by Julia Child and her friends:

Matthew 21:
21"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?' 23Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'

"many will say to me".....so who was Lord?

Matthew 8:1-3

1When he came down from the mountainside, large crowds followed him. 2A man with leprosy[a] came and knelt before him and said, "Lord, if you are willing, you can make me clean."

3Jesus reached out his hand and touched the man. "I am willing," he said. "Be clean!" Immediately he was cured of his leprosy

Who was he calling Lord?

Matthew 8:8
8The centurion replied, "Lord, I do not deserve to have you come under my roof. But just say the word, and my servant will be healed

Who was he calling Lord?

Mark 8:38
38If anyone is ashamed of me and my words in this adulterous and sinful generation, the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when he comes in his Father's glory with the holy angels."

It is always the right time and place to speak of the Lord.

Mark 9:42
42"And if anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to be thrown into the sea with a large millstone tied around his neck

Be careful not to teach your children its ok to choose the sins of the world over holiness. Christians shouldnt defend anti-Christian posts over someone declaring his Lordship.

Mark 14:61-62
Again the high priest asked him, "Are you the Christ,[f] the Son of the Blessed One?"

62"I am," said Jesus. "And you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Mighty One and coming on the clouds of heaven."

Luke 7:50
50Jesus said to the woman, "Your faith has saved you; go in peace."

It is our faith that saves us.

John 3

Jesus Teaches Nicodemus
1Now there was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a member of the Jewish ruling council. 2He came to Jesus at night and said, "Rabbi, we know you are a teacher who has come from God. For no one could perform the miraculous signs you are doing if God were not with him."

3In reply Jesus declared, [B]"I tell you the truth, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again.[a]"

4"How can a man be born when he is old?" Nicodemus asked. "Surely he cannot enter a second time into his mother's womb to be born!"

5Jesus answered, "I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit. 6Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit. 7You should not be surprised at my saying, 'You[c] must be born again.' 8The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit."

9"How can this be?" Nicodemus asked.

10"You are Israel's teacher," said Jesus, "and do you not understand these things? 11I tell you the truth, we speak of what we know, and we testify to what we have seen, but still you people do not accept our testimony. 12I have spoken to you of earthly things and you do not believe; how then will you believe if I speak of heavenly things? [B]13No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven—the Son of Man.[d] 14Just as Moses lifted up the snake in the desert, so the Son of Man must be lifted up, 15that everyone who believes in him may have eternal life.[e]

16"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son,[f] that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. 18Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God's one and only Son.[g] 19This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. 20Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed. 21But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through God."[h]

We must be Born Again. And we must believe in Jesus.

John 5:21-27
21For just as the Father raises the dead and gives them life, even so the Son gives life to whom he is pleased to give it. 22Moreover, the Father judges no one, but has entrusted all judgment to the Son, 23that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father. He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father, who sent him.

24"I tell you the truth, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be condemned; he has crossed over from death to life. 25I tell you the truth, a time is coming and has now come when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God and those who hear will live. 26For as the Father has life in himself, so he has granted the Son to have life in himself. 27And he has given him authority to judge because he is the Son of Man.

John 6:28-29
28Then they asked him, "What must we do to do the works God requires?"

29Jesus answered, "The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent."

John 10:1-10
1"I tell you the truth, the man who does not enter the sheep pen by the gate, but climbs in by some other way, is a thief and a robber. 2The man who enters by the gate is the shepherd of his sheep. 3The watchman opens the gate for him, and the sheep listen to his voice. He calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. 4When he has brought out all his own, he goes on ahead of them, and his sheep follow him because they know his voice. 5But they will never follow a stranger; in fact, they will run away from him because they do not recognize a stranger's voice." 6Jesus used this figure of speech, but they did not understand what he was telling them.

7Therefore Jesus said again, "I tell you the truth, I am the gate for the sheep. 8All who ever came before me were thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not listen to them. 9I am the gate; whoever enters through me will be saved.[a] He will come in and go out, and find pasture. 10The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full.

Thats probably enough for now.

Jesus owns words from the Bible. And all versions of the Bible are consistant in character.

Christians believe that Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life. He is Lord and He is the way to Salvation.

milkman · 01-29-2007, 08:10 PM

Cliff notes please.

Believer · 01-29-2007, 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman

Cliff notes please.

its worth the time to read.

Fairplay · 01-29-2007, 08:12 PM

Deja Vu is real.

|Zach| · 01-29-2007, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman

Cliff notes please.

milkman · 01-29-2007, 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Believer

its worth the time to read.

Yeah, like I believe that.

jidar · 01-29-2007, 08:13 PM

this dude is a blight on humanity

Sully · 01-29-2007, 08:13 PM

What does it mean that "only through Jesus we are saved?"

Does that mean that all I have to do is believe he is the son of God? Or do I actually have to follow his teachings. If I only follow his teachings, without saying the magic words, then am I still saved?

What am I saved from? God's eternal torure chamber?

Fairplay · 01-29-2007, 08:14 PM

Oh well. We need something to do before the Superbowl.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-29-2007, 08:14 PM

2000 years ago people saw visions, heard voices in their head, and their actions were guided by said apparitions.

They called these people prophets. Today, these people are known as schizophrenics.

Eleazar · 01-29-2007, 08:15 PM

this guy has got to be a parody poster or something.

**DaFace** · 01-29-2007, 08:15 PM

Gawddammit, can't we find a Christian forum to deport this guy to? Or at least take away his thread-starting privs?

**Buck** · 01-29-2007, 08:16 PM

Everyone look at this, this basically explains it all.

**the Talking Can** · 01-29-2007, 08:16 PM

Fairplay · 01-29-2007, 08:17 PM

Ok.....Okay already.

If this is a planeteer joke tell me who you are whose doing this.

I won't tell!!

Let me in on it. Who is this who is doing this?

PM me.

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Believer Starter Join Date: Nov 2006 Casino cash: $10004900	Why we must be born again and why Jesus is the only way to Salvation since the other thread was hijacked by Julia Child and her friends: Matthew 21: 21"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?' 23Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!' "many will say to me".....so who was Lord? Matthew 8:1-3 1When he came down from the mountainside, large crowds followed him. 2A man with leprosy[a] came and knelt before him and said, "Lord, if you are willing, you can make me clean." 3Jesus reached out his hand and touched the man. "I am willing," he said. "Be clean!" Immediately he was cured of his leprosy Who was he calling Lord? Matthew 8:8 8The centurion replied, "Lord, I do not deserve to have you come under my roof. But just say the word, and my servant will be healed Who was he calling Lord? Mark 8:38 38If anyone is ashamed of me and my words in this adulterous and sinful generation, the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when he comes in his Father's glory with the holy angels." It is always the right time and place to speak of the Lord. Mark 9:42 42"And if anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to be thrown into the sea with a large millstone tied around his neck Be careful not to teach your children its ok to choose the sins of the world over holiness. Christians shouldnt defend anti-Christian posts over someone declaring his Lordship. Mark 14:61-62 Again the high priest asked him, "Are you the Christ,[f] the Son of the Blessed One?" 62"I am," said Jesus. "And you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Mighty One and coming on the clouds of heaven." Luke 7:50 50Jesus said to the woman, "Your faith has saved you; go in peace." It is our faith that saves us. John 3 Jesus Teaches Nicodemus 1Now there was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a member of the Jewish ruling council. 2He came to Jesus at night and said, "Rabbi, we know you are a teacher who has come from God. For no one could perform the miraculous signs you are doing if God were not with him." 3In reply Jesus declared, [B]"I tell you the truth, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again.[a]" 4"How can a man be born when he is old?" Nicodemus asked. "Surely he cannot enter a second time into his mother's womb to be born!" 5Jesus answered, "I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit. 6Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit. 7You should not be surprised at my saying, 'You[c] must be born again.' 8The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit." 9"How can this be?" Nicodemus asked. 10"You are Israel's teacher," said Jesus, "and do you not understand these things? 11I tell you the truth, we speak of what we know, and we testify to what we have seen, but still you people do not accept our testimony. 12I have spoken to you of earthly things and you do not believe; how then will you believe if I speak of heavenly things? [B]13No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven—the Son of Man.[d] 14Just as Moses lifted up the snake in the desert, so the Son of Man must be lifted up, 15that everyone who believes in him may have eternal life.[e] 16"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son,[f] that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. 18Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God's one and only Son.[g] 19This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. 20Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed. 21But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through God."[h] We must be Born Again. And we must believe in Jesus. John 5:21-27 21For just as the Father raises the dead and gives them life, even so the Son gives life to whom he is pleased to give it. 22Moreover, the Father judges no one, but has entrusted all judgment to the Son, 23that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father. He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father, who sent him. 24"I tell you the truth, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be condemned; he has crossed over from death to life. 25I tell you the truth, a time is coming and has now come when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God and those who hear will live. 26For as the Father has life in himself, so he has granted the Son to have life in himself. 27And he has given him authority to judge because he is the Son of Man. John 6:28-29 28Then they asked him, "What must we do to do the works God requires?" 29Jesus answered, "The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent." John 10:1-10 1"I tell you the truth, the man who does not enter the sheep pen by the gate, but climbs in by some other way, is a thief and a robber. 2The man who enters by the gate is the shepherd of his sheep. 3The watchman opens the gate for him, and the sheep listen to his voice. He calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. 4When he has brought out all his own, he goes on ahead of them, and his sheep follow him because they know his voice. 5But they will never follow a stranger; in fact, they will run away from him because they do not recognize a stranger's voice." 6Jesus used this figure of speech, but they did not understand what he was telling them. 7Therefore Jesus said again, "I tell you the truth, I am the gate for the sheep. 8All who ever came before me were thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not listen to them. 9I am the gate; whoever enters through me will be saved.[a] He will come in and go out, and find pasture. 10The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full. Thats probably enough for now. Jesus owns words from the Bible. And all versions of the Bible are consistant in character. Christians believe that Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life. He is Lord and He is the way to Salvation.
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Sully It Goes On Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Lees Summit Casino cash: $10026331	What does it mean that "only through Jesus we are saved?" Does that mean that all I have to do is believe he is the son of God? Or do I actually have to follow his teachings. If I only follow his teachings, without saying the magic words, then am I still saved? What am I saved from? God's eternal torure chamber? __________________ "And I don't wish that girl any bad luck," he said, "but I hope she gets hit with a car." - Tommy Lasorda
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'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7149572	2000 years ago people saw visions, heard voices in their head, and their actions were guided by said apparitions. They called these people prophets. Today, these people are known as schizophrenics. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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