Home Discord Chat
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > Nzoner's Game Room
Register FAQDonate Members List Calendar

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-26-2007, 06:50 PM  
C-Mac C-Mac is offline
Lurker Extraordinaire
 
C-Mac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Wally World
Casino cash: $-936301
Justifying Day Care

http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune....justify_d.html
Justifying day care
"As if I don’t already feel guilty for putting my son in day care at the tender age of three months, a new study shows that the more time children spend in center-based care before kindergarten, the more likely they’ll fight, disobey and argue, according to their 6th grade teachers.

The increase in problem behavior was slight, but studies like this inspire me to look for the silver lining. And I always return to the same thing: "the hygiene hypothesis," or the belief that early exposure to germs helps the immune system develop properly.

While most children get six to eight infections a year, children in day care bring home twice that number, or about one a month. Day-care settings --or petri dishes, as my pediatrician calls them-- have high levels of indoor allergens and have been shown to incubate and spread antibiotic resistant bacteria.

This sounds like a no-brainer: Keep your children at home! But since most of us don't have that option--63 percent of U.S. children under the age of five spend 37 hours a week in child care--I manage to get through the work day by reminding myself my kids might turn out healthier in the long run.

Some research bears this out. A 2005 study in the British Medical Journal showed that children who attended day care in the first few months of life are less likely to develop leukemia than children who do not, most likely because they were protected from exposure to common infections. Similar associations have been reported for Type 1diabetes and allergies and asthma in children.

Still, even if they have stronger immune systems, is it worth sending them to day care if they’re going to have behavioral issues that persist at least until 6th grade? That, according to the research, published in the March/April issue of "Child Development," is up to the parents.

The researchers involved with the longest and most comprehensive study of child care in the U.S. cautioned that parenting quality was a much more important predictor of child development than the type, quantity or quality of child care.

Ultimately, while quality day care is important, a quality home environment matters more."




We had to do without some things obviuosly but the wife and I both agreed that her being at home while the children were young, was far more important than her having a career or us having a new car or house. We now get compliments all the time about our kids and their behavior and I truly feel that this is one of the main reasons why. I do understand that not everyone's situation allows mom to stay home(especially single moms), but I do think that there are many cases that if they just tried to live a little simpler, they could pull it off.
Posts: 5,659
C-Mac has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.C-Mac has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.C-Mac has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.C-Mac has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.C-Mac has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.C-Mac has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.C-Mac has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.C-Mac has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.C-Mac has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.C-Mac has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.C-Mac has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.
    Reply With Quote
Old 03-26-2007, 06:59 PM   #2
NewChief NewChief is offline
In Search of a Life
 
NewChief's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Fayetteville, AR
Casino cash: $7270204
Interestingly enough, a similar (maybe the same?) study shows that children in high-quality daycares have measurably, but not extremely, higher performance in school than those in lower quality daycare. I didn't see a comparison between stay-at-home children and daycare kids.
__________________
In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican.
- H. L. Mencken
Posts: 21,845
NewChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.NewChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.NewChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.NewChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.NewChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.NewChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.NewChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.NewChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.NewChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.NewChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.NewChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 03-26-2007, 07:06 PM   #3
Skip Towne Skip Towne is offline
Supporter
 
Skip Towne's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: T-Town
Casino cash: $10004900
Quote:
Originally Posted by C-Mac
http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune....justify_d.html
Justifying day care
"As if I don’t already feel guilty for putting my son in day care at the tender age of three months, a new study shows that the more time children spend in center-based care before kindergarten, the more likely they’ll fight, disobey and argue, according to their 6th grade teachers.

The increase in problem behavior was slight, but studies like this inspire me to look for the silver lining. And I always return to the same thing: "the hygiene hypothesis," or the belief that early exposure to germs helps the immune system develop properly.

While most children get six to eight infections a year, children in day care bring home twice that number, or about one a month. Day-care settings --or petri dishes, as my pediatrician calls them-- have high levels of indoor allergens and have been shown to incubate and spread antibiotic resistant bacteria.

This sounds like a no-brainer: Keep your children at home! But since most of us don't have that option--63 percent of U.S. children under the age of five spend 37 hours a week in child care--I manage to get through the work day by reminding myself my kids might turn out healthier in the long run.

Some research bears this out. A 2005 study in the British Medical Journal showed that children who attended day care in the first few months of life are less likely to develop leukemia than children who do not, most likely because they were protected from exposure to common infections. Similar associations have been reported for Type 1diabetes and allergies and asthma in children.

Still, even if they have stronger immune systems, is it worth sending them to day care if they’re going to have behavioral issues that persist at least until 6th grade? That, according to the research, published in the March/April issue of "Child Development," is up to the parents.

The researchers involved with the longest and most comprehensive study of child care in the U.S. cautioned that parenting quality was a much more important predictor of child development than the type, quantity or quality of child care.

Ultimately, while quality day care is important, a quality home environment matters more."




We had to do without some things obviuosly but the wife and I both agreed that her being at home while the children were young, was far more important than her having a career or us having a new car or house. We now get compliments all the time about our kids and their behavior and I truly feel that this is one of the main reasons why. I do understand that not everyone's situation allows mom to stay home(especially single moms), but I do think that there are many cases that if they just tried to live a little simpler, they could pull it off.
Well, that and your kids have good parents.
Posts: 69,689
Skip Towne is not part of the Right 53.Skip Towne is not part of the Right 53.Skip Towne is not part of the Right 53.Skip Towne is not part of the Right 53.Skip Towne is not part of the Right 53.Skip Towne is not part of the Right 53.Skip Towne is not part of the Right 53.Skip Towne is not part of the Right 53.Skip Towne is not part of the Right 53.Skip Towne is not part of the Right 53.Skip Towne is not part of the Right 53.
    Reply With Quote
Old 03-26-2007, 07:15 PM   #4
Simplex3 Simplex3 is offline
MVP
 
Simplex3's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2003
Casino cash: $10004900
My wife and my theory was "If you aren't going to raise them then why have them?" Did our income take a hit? Abso-freaking-lutely. Would I do it again? In a minute. Our kids are as smart and well behaved as any I know.
Posts: 28,527
Simplex3 would the whole thing.Simplex3 would the whole thing.Simplex3 would the whole thing.Simplex3 would the whole thing.Simplex3 would the whole thing.Simplex3 would the whole thing.Simplex3 would the whole thing.Simplex3 would the whole thing.Simplex3 would the whole thing.Simplex3 would the whole thing.Simplex3 would the whole thing.
    Reply With Quote
Old 03-26-2007, 07:18 PM   #5
C-Mac C-Mac is offline
Lurker Extraordinaire
 
C-Mac's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Wally World
Casino cash: $-936301
Quote:
Originally Posted by NewChief
Interestingly enough, a similar (maybe the same?) study shows that children in high-quality daycares have measurably, but not extremely, higher performance in school than those in lower quality daycare. I didn't see a comparison between stay-at-home children and daycare kids.
I do know that some daycare centers have some preschooling programs for the older ones and could obviously help them get a jump on the schooling process. I sent all my kids to preschool. I do know that my friends kids who did go to daycare were sick much more often than mine ever were. They are quite unruley at times, but that also could fall on the failure of the parents.
Posts: 5,659
C-Mac has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.C-Mac has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.C-Mac has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.C-Mac has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.C-Mac has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.C-Mac has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.C-Mac has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.C-Mac has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.C-Mac has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.C-Mac has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.C-Mac has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.
    Reply With Quote
Old 03-26-2007, 07:21 PM   #6
C-Mac C-Mac is offline
Lurker Extraordinaire
 
C-Mac's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Wally World
Casino cash: $-936301
Quote:
Originally Posted by Skip Towne
Well, that and your kids have good parents.
Thanks Skip, seems its a job that you keep learning as you go along.
Posts: 5,659
C-Mac has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.C-Mac has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.C-Mac has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.C-Mac has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.C-Mac has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.C-Mac has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.C-Mac has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.C-Mac has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.C-Mac has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.C-Mac has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.C-Mac has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.
    Reply With Quote
Old 03-26-2007, 07:23 PM   #7
C-Mac C-Mac is offline
Lurker Extraordinaire
 
C-Mac's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Wally World
Casino cash: $-936301
Quote:
Originally Posted by Simplex3
My wife and my theory was "If you aren't going to raise them then why have them?" Did our income take a hit? Abso-freaking-lutely. Would I do it again? In a minute. Our kids are as smart and well behaved as any I know.
Well done.
Posts: 5,659
C-Mac has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.C-Mac has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.C-Mac has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.C-Mac has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.C-Mac has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.C-Mac has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.C-Mac has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.C-Mac has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.C-Mac has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.C-Mac has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.C-Mac has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.
    Reply With Quote
Old 03-26-2007, 07:25 PM   #8
JBucc JBucc is offline
MVP
 

Join Date: Oct 2005
Casino cash: $10004952
I used to help clean bathrooms at a daycare I went to. I'm not sure it that's still legal or not but there was some pretty nasty stuff in there. Anyway I don't have any kids but speaking from the other side as a kid I loved it.
Posts: 12,016
JBucc is not part of the Right 53.JBucc is not part of the Right 53.JBucc is not part of the Right 53.JBucc is not part of the Right 53.JBucc is not part of the Right 53.JBucc is not part of the Right 53.JBucc is not part of the Right 53.JBucc is not part of the Right 53.JBucc is not part of the Right 53.JBucc is not part of the Right 53.JBucc is not part of the Right 53.
    Reply With Quote
Old 03-26-2007, 07:26 PM   #9
Deberg_1990 Deberg_1990 is offline
In Search of a Life
 
Deberg_1990's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: San Antonio Tx.
Casino cash: $294454
Quote:
Originally Posted by C-Mac

We had to do without some things obviuosly but the wife and I both agreed that her being at home while the children were young, was far more important than her having a career or us having a new car or house.
I couldnt agree more. My wife has been home for almost 4 years now raising our kids and its the best thing we could have done. She put a teaching career on hold figuring she could always go back later. Sure we had to sacrifice alot of material things, but all in all, we havent done too bad.
__________________
Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning:

Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down.

One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
Posts: 68,449
Deberg_1990 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Deberg_1990 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Deberg_1990 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Deberg_1990 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Deberg_1990 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Deberg_1990 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Deberg_1990 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Deberg_1990 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Deberg_1990 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Deberg_1990 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Deberg_1990 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 03-26-2007, 07:41 PM   #10
stevieray stevieray is offline
Most things I worry about…
 
stevieray's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Under Pressure
Casino cash: $-1134727
Quote:
Originally Posted by Simplex3
My wife and my theory was "If you aren't going to raise them then why have them?" Did our income take a hit? Abso-freaking-lutely. Would I do it again? In a minute. Our kids are as smart and well behaved as any I know.
same here..we've made it ten years on just my income...been worth every sacrifice...what's wild, is my wife is even more committed to being home during the HS years.
Posts: 74,011
stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.stevieray is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 03-26-2007, 07:44 PM   #11
Mile High Mania Mile High Mania is offline
#triggering
 
Mile High Mania's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Tejas
Casino cash: $1067229
Our kids go to a deal at church for a few hours a day, three days a week. It's not a generic day care, they actually learn stuff and interact with other kids. They seem to really like it and they're learning stuff.

We didn't want to do the full day every day thing for all the reasons mentioned.
__________________
Posts: 30,894
Mile High Mania has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Mile High Mania has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Mile High Mania has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Mile High Mania has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Mile High Mania has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Mile High Mania has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Mile High Mania has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Mile High Mania has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Mile High Mania has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Mile High Mania has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Mile High Mania has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.
    Reply With Quote
Old 03-26-2007, 07:56 PM   #12
Simplex3 Simplex3 is offline
MVP
 
Simplex3's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2003
Casino cash: $10004900
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mile High Mania
Our kids go to a deal at church for a few hours a day, three days a week. It's not a generic day care, they actually learn stuff and interact with other kids. They seem to really like it and they're learning stuff.

We didn't want to do the full day every day thing for all the reasons mentioned.
We do two years of pre-school leading up to kindergarten, two days a week for 3 hours each day. Sort of a warm-up before kindergarten.
Posts: 28,527
Simplex3 would the whole thing.Simplex3 would the whole thing.Simplex3 would the whole thing.Simplex3 would the whole thing.Simplex3 would the whole thing.Simplex3 would the whole thing.Simplex3 would the whole thing.Simplex3 would the whole thing.Simplex3 would the whole thing.Simplex3 would the whole thing.Simplex3 would the whole thing.
    Reply With Quote
Old 03-26-2007, 09:50 PM   #13
Mr. Plow Mr. Plow is offline
In Search of a Life
 
Mr. Plow's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2005
Casino cash: $-1342609
Not that I don't agree with stay at home mom's. We are preparing for our 4th child - 3 will be at home - and my wife is going to try to work from home. Luckily, it's our business so she will still be able to bring in some money.

My feeling has always been daycare is helpful for children in the growth process to be around other kids. Learning things that mom and dad can teach, but they have to experience first hand. Just the simple process of learning to play with other kids, or sharing, etc.

My kids have all gone to daycare. Not daycare centers, but daycare in someones home. Finding the right person is a very time consuming process, but when you do, it's great to know that your kids are in that type of environment.

I do feel that being with parents can be a good thing for kids. But both kids & adults need some separation. It helps both the parents & the kids.

Just my opinion, so take it for what it's worth.
Posts: 31,679
Mr. Plow is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mr. Plow is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mr. Plow is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mr. Plow is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mr. Plow is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mr. Plow is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mr. Plow is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mr. Plow is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mr. Plow is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mr. Plow is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mr. Plow is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 03-26-2007, 10:42 PM   #14
Judge Smails Judge Smails is offline
Starter
 
Judge Smails's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2004
Casino cash: $65117
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Plow
Not that I don't agree with stay at home mom's. We are preparing for our 4th child - 3 will be at home - and my wife is going to try to work from home. Luckily, it's our business so she will still be able to bring in some money.

My feeling has always been daycare is helpful for children in the growth process to be around other kids. Learning things that mom and dad can teach, but they have to experience first hand. Just the simple process of learning to play with other kids, or sharing, etc.

My kids have all gone to daycare. Not daycare centers, but daycare in someones home. Finding the right person is a very time consuming process, but when you do, it's great to know that your kids are in that type of environment.

I do feel that being with parents can be a good thing for kids. But both kids & adults need some separation. It helps both the parents & the kids.

Just my opinion, so take it for what it's worth.
I'm glad some one feels the same as I do. My wife and I love our daycare provider (daycare in someone's home) and our daughter has learned as much from the kids as she has from us. Yes, she catches every sniffle they have, but are we going to lock her up in a plastic bubble until she turns 30?
The whole behavior argument is crap. I was in daycare off and on growing up and have never has a problem arguing, however my youngest brother was exclusively at home and was the the most stubborn pain in the ass.
Posts: 149
Judge Smails is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutJudge Smails is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutJudge Smails is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutJudge Smails is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutJudge Smails is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutJudge Smails is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutJudge Smails is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutJudge Smails is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutJudge Smails is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutJudge Smails is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutJudge Smails is the dumbass Milkman is always talking about
    Reply With Quote
Old 03-26-2007, 10:53 PM
Jenson71
This message has been deleted by Jenson71.
Old 03-26-2007, 11:14 PM   #15
Mile High Mania Mile High Mania is offline
#triggering
 
Mile High Mania's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Tejas
Casino cash: $1067229
I don't have anything against day cares... hell, my mom has worked at one for 20 years. My wife and I just didn't want to have our kids in one form 9-5 every day.
__________________
Posts: 30,894
Mile High Mania has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Mile High Mania has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Mile High Mania has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Mile High Mania has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Mile High Mania has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Mile High Mania has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Mile High Mania has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Mile High Mania has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Mile High Mania has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Mile High Mania has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Mile High Mania has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.
    Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:31 PM.


This is a test for a client's site.
Fort Worth Texas Process Servers
Covering Arlington, Fort Worth, Grand Prairie and surrounding communities.
Tarrant County, Texas and Johnson County, Texas.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.