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Old 08-17-2007, 12:08 PM  
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Do you want to know what Quantis Phillips said about Vick?
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AUGUST 17--Ratcheting up the pressure on Michael Vick, two of the NFL star's cohorts today pleaded guilty to federal dogfighting charges, leaving the athlete alone--at least for the time being--to face trial. During an appearance this morning in U.S. District Court in Richmond, Virginia, Quanis Phillips and Purnell Peace each copped to a felony conspiracy rap and signed plea agreements pledging to cooperate with federal investigators. In nearly identical fact summaries, both Phillips and Peace stated that the dogfighting ring's "operation and gambling monies were almost exclusively funded by Vick." Additionally, both men fingered Vick in the execution earlier this year of about eight dogs that performed poorly in test fighting sessions. Phillips and Peace each told investigators that Vick participated in killing the dogs, which were hung or drowned, and that the animals "died as a result of the collective efforts" of the trio. A copy of the Phillips fact summary can be found below. In his fact statement, Peace recalled traveling with Vick and other Bad Newz Kennels figures to a 2003 dog fight in North Carolina. Peace told investigators that, prior to the match, Vick and his Bad Newz cronies, "took a picture together with 'Jane,'" their female pit bull. Presumably, this photo was turned over to probers by Peace and will end up as a government exhibit at a Vick trial. Last month, Tony Taylor was the first Vick crony to cut a deal and agree to testify against the Atlanta Falcons quarterback. With today's guilty pleas, all three of Vick's codefendants have admitted involvement in the operation of Bad Newz Kennels, which the trio has described as a brutal pit bull fighting operation that was headquartered at a Smithfield, Virginia property owned by Vick. (12 pages)
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Old 08-17-2007, 12:11 PM   #2
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I wanted to read that and see what they say that Vick actually did.

Sounds like it would be hard for him to be any more screwed, but who knows.
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Old 08-17-2007, 12:13 PM   #3
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One thing that I just don't get about this whole thing is why they chose such gruesome deaths for the dogs they killed. Wouldn't some form of fast-acting poison suffice?
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Old 08-17-2007, 12:16 PM   #4
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One thing that I just don't get about this whole thing is why they chose such gruesome deaths for the dogs they killed. Wouldn't some form of fast-acting poison suffice?
I'm guessing lazy, cheap and uncaring were the primary reasons.
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Old 08-17-2007, 12:17 PM   #5
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I'm guessing lazy, cheap and uncaring were the primary reasons.
I know, and I'd imagine that there's a reason that I don't get the point in dog fighting either. I guess I just think of dogfighting as a gambling operation rather than people getting kicks out of torturing animals. It's probably a bit of both.
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Old 08-17-2007, 12:20 PM   #6
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I read through Phillips' statement and Vick's screwed. Pulp Fiction Zed screwed. The statement reads like the run up to RICO charges all right. I'd love to see what the Feds have as supporting evidence.
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Old 08-17-2007, 12:21 PM   #7
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One thing that I just don't get about this whole thing is why they chose such gruesome deaths for the dogs they killed. Wouldn't some form of fast-acting poison suffice?
Because these pathetic, sadistic individuals needed to get their rocks off and prove their masculinity by torturing helpless animals.
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Old 08-17-2007, 12:21 PM   #8
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One thing that I just don't get about this whole thing is why they chose such gruesome deaths for the dogs they killed. Wouldn't some form of fast-acting poison suffice?
No street-cred in that I guess.
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Old 08-17-2007, 12:22 PM   #9
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One thing that I just don't get about this whole thing is why they chose such gruesome deaths for the dogs they killed. Wouldn't some form of fast-acting poison suffice?
I think it is funny that people are calling for at least a year in jail, when the TN preacher wife got 6 months. Torturing animals is cruel, but not as cruel and shooting your childrens father.
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Old 08-17-2007, 12:23 PM   #10
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Old 08-17-2007, 12:24 PM   #11
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Old 08-17-2007, 12:25 PM   #12
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I think it is funny that people are calling for at least a year in jail, when the TN preacher wife got 6 months. Torturing animals is cruel, but not as cruel and shooting your childrens father.
1. he was cruel and abusive he anally raped\tortured her.
2. credit for time already served.
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Old 08-17-2007, 12:30 PM   #13
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1. he was cruel and abusive he anally raped\tortured her.
2. credit for time already served.
She said he did and 67 days in a mental hospital still doesn't seem to be enough.

This is beside the point. Just because this lady is going to be walking around doesn't mean Vick should. He ran an ongoing criminal enterprise. It wasn't just something he did on a whim a couple of times. He knew it was illegal and set up an entire operation to do it, a year in prison seems to be way too light to me.
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Old 08-17-2007, 12:31 PM   #14
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The one thing I didn't want to happen was another celebrity getting off on a charge just because they are who they are. Hopefully he'll face justice with a smile If one of those pit bulls went all bat shit crazy on my dog he'd meet his maker in a hurry. That is just how a mastiff roles. I love my doggie and may Vick rot in jail for a long time to come.
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I could give a shit what others are sentenced. Every case is different.

But MV7 is in a world of hurt. The dogfighting charges are bad enough, but if they can prove the illegal gambling part, he's done for good.

Illegal gambling is an offense subject to a lifetime ban from the NFL.

And even if he isn't banned for life, I don't see why people think he'll ever step foot on an NFL field again.

What owner in their right mind is going to bring in a convicted dog fighter/killer/abuser? The public backlash would be enormous, just like it is now.

A year or two off isn't going to change how people view Vick.
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