De La Hoya V. Mayweather Thread

L.A. Chieffan · 05-05-2007, 12:31 AM

Multiple plot lines.
Both great fighters.
Post your predictions here.

L.A. Chieffan · 05-05-2007, 12:40 AM

Corrales V Castillo. Now there was a DAMN good fight. Probably the best I've ever seen. Anybody got a link to that fight??? Jesus, I loved that fight.

kcxiv · 05-05-2007, 01:03 AM

Ooh, here it is! Go OScar, even though i think he's goin to lose in to the judges.

**pr_capone** · 05-05-2007, 04:40 AM

Hope De La Hoya gets massacred.

**Bwana** · 05-05-2007, 04:54 AM

Mayweather is going to kick his ass.

**Bwana** · 05-05-2007, 06:19 AM

Column: Can this fight save boxing?
By TIM DAHLBERG
AP Sports Columnist

LAS VEGAS (AP) -- At the sports book inside the massive MGM Grand hotel-casino, the squares were trickling in to bet the big fight. As squares usually do, they were going for the dog, who on this day wore a big smile underneath his ball cap.

Oscar De La Hoya hasn't been in this position much, but it doesn't seem to bother him. Maybe that's because he's going to make $30 million or so no matter what the odds are when he steps into the ring against Floyd Mayweather Jr. in a megafight that harkens back to boxing's glory days.

The wise guys who bet the big money will mostly be putting it on the favorite in this fight. But casual fans, or squares to the bookies who take their money, are believers when their fighter talks about himself.
Or maybe he just believes in himself more than he believes the wise guys who set the odds. "Don't be surprised if I'm faster than Mayweather," De La Hoya warned. "I don't see this fight going the distance."

Those, of course, are fighting words, though a bit tamer than the ones the two boxers have been throwing at each other since they launched this promotion a few months back in a big city tour.
By the time they finished at a surprisingly quiet final news conference on Wednesday, there was more than enough material for HBO to fill its reality show. And there was more than enough animosity between the two fighters to guarantee there will be at least some bad blood, if not real blood, spilled when the two finally meet Saturday night.

"This is not golf. This is not tennis," Mayweather said. "It's a brutal sport. Blood, sweat and tears."
Money, too, if you're a marketing machine like De La Hoya or good enough to be the fighter many consider the best pound-for-pound in the world, like Mayweather. Their fight will likely be the richest ever in a sport that's supposed to be dying, and both fighters will be well compensated.

De La Hoya will take the biggest cut because, well, he's the golden boy. He's not only the main attraction in the fight, but the promoter as well, and he figures to bank twice as many millions as his undefeated opponent.

Not that Mayweather is lacking for cash. As he is quick to point out, he lives in a 12,000-square-foot mansion, drives Bentleys and Maybachs, and employs people to take care of his every whim.
OK, so he was wearing an $8 T-shirt at the press conference. But on his left wrist was a diamond-studded watch worth $500,000. Around his neck was a glittering cross and chain worth another $300,000. On his pinky finger was a $200,000 ring, bringing this day's jewelry tab to a cool million dollars. In his pocket was a wad of bills.
Some walking around money, nothing really serious.
"About 30 thousand," Mayweather said.

Mayweather has more than earned his keep for this fight, even before he steps into the ring to challenge De La Hoya for the 154-pound title. He's not only the most gifted fighter of his era, but he's generated enough subplots for this fight to fill a full season of the "Sopranos."
Chief among those is his relationship with his father, who taught him to box and trained him before the two had a bitter split and Floyd Sr. went on to train De La Hoya. The elder Mayweather isn't doing that for this fight, not out of love for his son but because De La Hoya wouldn't meet his asking price of $2 million.

Father and son briefly reunited, but split again when Floyd Jr. insisted on being trained by his uncle, Roger, instead of his father. Roger Mayweather became available when he was released from a local jail in March after serving a six-month sentence for domestic assault.
"Like the OJ trial is how they had me," Roger Mayweather said. "But it was OK. I did my time."

Roger Mayweather sat next to his fighter on the dais Wednesday, while Floyd Sr. watched from the cheap seats of the Hollywood Theater. Floyd Sr. will be at the fight because De La Hoya gave him two ringside tickets.

That seemed to irritate Floyd Jr., who said he would have been more than happy to give his father tickets.
"I've got plenty of tickets for my dad. I've got a half million dollars worth of tickets," he said. "I love my father."
De La Hoya loves his family, too, as evidenced by video clips so sugary you wonder whether he was being nominated for fighter of the year or sainthood.

"When you have a good soul, good things happen to you," De La Hoya intoned on the big screen behind the dais.
De La Hoya wasn't the only one doing some selling at this final opportunity to sell. The man representing the official tequila of the fight opened a bottle on the dais, poured a shot and drank it. Next to him, official cans of fight beer were prominently displayed, and a woman from Southwest talked about how she was honored to work for the official airline of the fight.

No one, though, was more honored than Jose Sulaiman, head of the World Boxing Council, which will make a nice chunk of change for sanctioning the fight. Sulaiman compared it to historic fights like the two between Joe Louis and Max Schmeling - minus the Nazi overtones, of course.

And, in a fight full of outlandish claims, Sulaiman saved the most bizarre for last. "We hope this fight will show that boxing is the cleanest of all sports," he said.

boogblaster · 05-05-2007, 06:39 AM

Mayweather has the speed...De La Hoya has the savy...should be a good fight ......

TrickyNicky · 05-05-2007, 07:25 AM

Mayweather is going to trounce him. Its too bad the price of the PPV is too high, otherwise I might order it.

**Bwana** · 05-05-2007, 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrickyNicky

Mayweather is going to trounce him. Its too bad the price of the PPV is too high, otherwise I might order it.

If you were closer, I would split it with you. What is the price....$49.95? I still may have to break down and order it, which is saying something, because I don't order boxing anymore. UFC yes, boxing no.

TrickyNicky · 05-05-2007, 07:33 AM

Its $54.95

I just can't justify that for two fights.

**Lzen** · 05-05-2007, 07:36 AM

Why doesn't boxing just get a TV contract? PPV is crap. For a sport that isn't even one of the most popular in this country, they sure price it like they believe it is gold.

I suppose that won't change as long as there is plenty of betting on those fights.

**Bwana** · 05-05-2007, 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lzen

Why doesn't boxing just get a TV contract? PPV is crap. For a sport that isn't even one of the most popular in this country, they sure price it like they believe it is gold.

I suppose that won't change as long as there is plenty of betting on those fights.

The odds were 35-1 Mayweather earlier in the week. A buddy of mine was down in Vegas so I had him throw $25 on Del La Hoya for me. I don't think he has much of a shot unless he gets a lucky shot, nor do I want him to win, but at 35-1, I had to do it.

afchiefs · 05-05-2007, 08:40 AM

This needs a POLL

ragedogg69 · 05-05-2007, 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan

Corrales V Castillo. Now there was a DAMN good fight. Probably the best I've ever seen. Anybody got a link to that fight??? Jesus, I loved that fight.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=VrtoOVhscv0

shame. Correles' peak of his career. He never matched the beauty of that fight again. and Castillo was never able to make weight after this fight. The trilogy was worthless after the first fight.

Meanwhile, back to the fight of the year. There is a sports bar a block from my suburbia community, yet they only show MMA PPVs. How weak. Looks like Ill be staying home and watching the internet stream of the fight. I want De La Hoya to win. (because i have an autographed boxing glove of his) but I think Mayweather wins by decision.

**Nzoner** · 05-05-2007, 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bwana

I still may have to break down and order it,

I'm mulling it around as well,I'll have to record if I do though.

Personally after watching these HBO 24/7 specials I have a very strong dislike for Mayweather,one of the scenes with he and his boy 50 cent left a bad taste in my mouth and I hope that somehow De La Hoya on Cinco De Mayo will get in a punch that knocks his cocky ass out.

05-05-2007, 12:31 AM
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05-05-2007, 12:40 AM	#2
L.A. Chieffan PLAY GOOD FOOTBALL Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: American Gardens Building Casino cash: $2688654	Corrales V Castillo. Now there was a DAMN good fight. Probably the best I've ever seen. Anybody got a link to that fight??? Jesus, I loved that fight.
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05-05-2007, 01:03 AM	#3
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05-05-2007, 04:40 AM	#4
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05-05-2007, 04:54 AM	#5
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05-05-2007, 06:19 AM	#6
Bwana It's Five O'Clock Somewhere Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Billings, Montana Casino cash: $2135833647	Column: Can this fight save boxing? By TIM DAHLBERG AP Sports Columnist LAS VEGAS (AP) -- At the sports book inside the massive MGM Grand hotel-casino, the squares were trickling in to bet the big fight. As squares usually do, they were going for the dog, who on this day wore a big smile underneath his ball cap. Oscar De La Hoya hasn't been in this position much, but it doesn't seem to bother him. Maybe that's because he's going to make $30 million or so no matter what the odds are when he steps into the ring against Floyd Mayweather Jr. in a megafight that harkens back to boxing's glory days. The wise guys who bet the big money will mostly be putting it on the favorite in this fight. But casual fans, or squares to the bookies who take their money, are believers when their fighter talks about himself. Or maybe he just believes in himself more than he believes the wise guys who set the odds. "Don't be surprised if I'm faster than Mayweather," De La Hoya warned. "I don't see this fight going the distance." Those, of course, are fighting words, though a bit tamer than the ones the two boxers have been throwing at each other since they launched this promotion a few months back in a big city tour. By the time they finished at a surprisingly quiet final news conference on Wednesday, there was more than enough material for HBO to fill its reality show. And there was more than enough animosity between the two fighters to guarantee there will be at least some bad blood, if not real blood, spilled when the two finally meet Saturday night. "This is not golf. This is not tennis," Mayweather said. "It's a brutal sport. Blood, sweat and tears." Money, too, if you're a marketing machine like De La Hoya or good enough to be the fighter many consider the best pound-for-pound in the world, like Mayweather. Their fight will likely be the richest ever in a sport that's supposed to be dying, and both fighters will be well compensated. De La Hoya will take the biggest cut because, well, he's the golden boy. He's not only the main attraction in the fight, but the promoter as well, and he figures to bank twice as many millions as his undefeated opponent. Not that Mayweather is lacking for cash. As he is quick to point out, he lives in a 12,000-square-foot mansion, drives Bentleys and Maybachs, and employs people to take care of his every whim. OK, so he was wearing an $8 T-shirt at the press conference. But on his left wrist was a diamond-studded watch worth $500,000. Around his neck was a glittering cross and chain worth another $300,000. On his pinky finger was a $200,000 ring, bringing this day's jewelry tab to a cool million dollars. In his pocket was a wad of bills. Some walking around money, nothing really serious. "About 30 thousand," Mayweather said. Mayweather has more than earned his keep for this fight, even before he steps into the ring to challenge De La Hoya for the 154-pound title. He's not only the most gifted fighter of his era, but he's generated enough subplots for this fight to fill a full season of the "Sopranos." Chief among those is his relationship with his father, who taught him to box and trained him before the two had a bitter split and Floyd Sr. went on to train De La Hoya. The elder Mayweather isn't doing that for this fight, not out of love for his son but because De La Hoya wouldn't meet his asking price of $2 million. Father and son briefly reunited, but split again when Floyd Jr. insisted on being trained by his uncle, Roger, instead of his father. Roger Mayweather became available when he was released from a local jail in March after serving a six-month sentence for domestic assault. "Like the OJ trial is how they had me," Roger Mayweather said. "But it was OK. I did my time." Roger Mayweather sat next to his fighter on the dais Wednesday, while Floyd Sr. watched from the cheap seats of the Hollywood Theater. Floyd Sr. will be at the fight because De La Hoya gave him two ringside tickets. That seemed to irritate Floyd Jr., who said he would have been more than happy to give his father tickets. "I've got plenty of tickets for my dad. I've got a half million dollars worth of tickets," he said. "I love my father." De La Hoya loves his family, too, as evidenced by video clips so sugary you wonder whether he was being nominated for fighter of the year or sainthood. "When you have a good soul, good things happen to you," De La Hoya intoned on the big screen behind the dais. De La Hoya wasn't the only one doing some selling at this final opportunity to sell. The man representing the official tequila of the fight opened a bottle on the dais, poured a shot and drank it. Next to him, official cans of fight beer were prominently displayed, and a woman from Southwest talked about how she was honored to work for the official airline of the fight. No one, though, was more honored than Jose Sulaiman, head of the World Boxing Council, which will make a nice chunk of change for sanctioning the fight. Sulaiman compared it to historic fights like the two between Joe Louis and Max Schmeling - minus the Nazi overtones, of course. And, in a fight full of outlandish claims, Sulaiman saved the most bizarre for last. "We hope this fight will show that boxing is the cleanest of all sports," he said. __________________ Adventure is dangerous....but monotony can kill you.
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05-05-2007, 06:39 AM	#7
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