Chiefs Whitlock: Grading the front office and coaches

**Tribal Warfare** · 12-31-2008, 12:00 AM

Grading the front office and coaches

98 Clark Hunt: He had a perfect grade, but it’s Wednesday and Herm Edwards, Dick Curl and Gunther Cunningham still have jobs. If this is true come Monday, drop Clark’s grade 10 points. If the Chiefs fail to make a serious, big-money offer to New England vice president Scott Pioli, we’ll drop Clark’s grade another 10 points. The Carl Peterson firing is starting to smell like a publicity stunt to stimulate season-ticket sales. Oh, I hope that’s just my paranoia.

80 Carl Peterson: Took his dismissal like a man. I’m not going to kick him while he’s down. After smugly celebrating Kansas City’s “close loss” to New England, he suffered the final 13 losses with the appropriate amount of humility.

50 Herm Edwards: Most likable coach to work at Arrowhead Stadium during my time here. I like Herm. A lot. I’m not sure he can coach a lick. Oh, he’s a great secondary coach. He rebuilt KC’s secondary. But everything else is a disaster. No way a real head coach concludes that Brokie Croyle is a potential franchise QB. No way. The defensive scheme the Chiefs employed to take advantage of Glenn Dorsey is a fireable mistake. Employing Dick “Father Time” Curl to mismanage the clock is another fireable error. Yeah, Herm was put in a tough situation trying to work through all Peterson’s misjudgments. But Herm hasn’t helped the situation.

85 Chan Gailey: I was initially against the Gailey hire. I was wrong. The dude is creative and sharp. On the fly, he came up with a strategy that allowed Tyler Thigpen to pass himself off as a starting quarterback. Gailey made one big mistake all season. He took the ball out of Thigpen’s hands at the end of the Jets game. Thigpen was having a great day, and for some reason Gailey tried to run out the clock with the running game. Maybe Herm told Gailey to do it. We’ll never know. Gailey took full responsibility. Other than that, I have no complaints about Chan.

52 Gunther Cunningham: You know I championed Gunther’s rehiring? Gunther and Ty Law are my fireable offenses. The game has passed Gunther. He had his day as a defensive coordinator. Or maybe Gun was just another guy that Marty and Derrick Thomas carried all those years. Whatever, the Squirt Gun has been fired. It’s out of juice.

**pr_capone** · 12-31-2008, 12:08 AM

Entirely too generous with Peterson.

Possibly so with Herm.

Gunther is a 0.

**Tribal Warfare** · 12-31-2008, 07:06 AM

rocks · 12-31-2008, 07:13 AM

I think he needs to dig a little deeper into the coaching staff. What about the d-line coach or the conditioning coach?? The coach's have been bad at all levels and need to be cleaned out. What does that say about Coach Edwards when he hires a staff that is subpar!

beach tribe · 12-31-2008, 07:14 AM

I really feel sorry for Gun. He sucks ass. And he has to know it by now. He should have stayed retired. At least that way we could have remembered him a decent coach. And he could have remembered himself that way too. FAIL.

**Bob Dole** · 12-31-2008, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by rocks

What does that say about Coach Edwards when he hires a staff that is subpar!

That nobody worth a shit wants to work for a man who has absolutely ZERO business being employed as an NFL head coach?

rocks · 12-31-2008, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by GoBobDole

That nobody worth a shit wants to work for a man who has absolutely ZERO business being employed as an NFL head coach?

Bingo!

**ShortRoundChief** · 12-31-2008, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

I really feel sorry for Gun. He sucks ass. And he has to know it by now. He should have stayed retired. At least that way we could have remembered him a decent coach. And he could have remembered himself that way too. FAIL.

he never retired.........

Chiefs_Mike_Topeka · 12-31-2008, 07:32 AM

I am a huge Gunther fan, would love to see him have the same level of success he did earlier.

That said he should receive a (minus) grade. He completely has no clue what it takes to compile even a decent defense anymore. His "famous" blitz packages are a complete joke..... hell my wife can tell you during the game what players are blitzing as soon as they line up at the "line of skirmish".

So be proud Gunther your defenses have been figured out by my wife; God Bless her; who thinks a Wil and Sam linebacker are their names.

beach tribe · 12-31-2008, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by J Diddy

he never retired.........

That's right. I haven't had my coffee yet.

Stryker · 12-31-2008, 07:42 AM

I agree with the Clark assessment. What REALLY pisses me off is how fast out the gate the Browns and Jets are moving – yet we are sitting idle spinning wheels and no word or action being taken by him. He needs to get off of his ass!

PhillyChiefFan · 12-31-2008, 07:51 AM

at least the guy can admit when he made a mistake

Chiefnj2 · 12-31-2008, 08:40 AM

Screw that. Clark gets a 0 for not firing Herm and Carl at the end of last year.

12-31-2008, 12:00 AM
Tribal Warfare Man of Culture Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Far Beyond Comprehension Casino cash: $-2937187	Whitlock: Grading the front office and coaches Grading the front office and coaches 98 Clark Hunt: He had a perfect grade, but it’s Wednesday and Herm Edwards, Dick Curl and Gunther Cunningham still have jobs. If this is true come Monday, drop Clark’s grade 10 points. If the Chiefs fail to make a serious, big-money offer to New England vice president Scott Pioli, we’ll drop Clark’s grade another 10 points. The Carl Peterson firing is starting to smell like a publicity stunt to stimulate season-ticket sales. Oh, I hope that’s just my paranoia. 80 Carl Peterson: Took his dismissal like a man. I’m not going to kick him while he’s down. After smugly celebrating Kansas City’s “close loss” to New England, he suffered the final 13 losses with the appropriate amount of humility. 50 Herm Edwards: Most likable coach to work at Arrowhead Stadium during my time here. I like Herm. A lot. I’m not sure he can coach a lick. Oh, he’s a great secondary coach. He rebuilt KC’s secondary. But everything else is a disaster. No way a real head coach concludes that Brokie Croyle is a potential franchise QB. No way. The defensive scheme the Chiefs employed to take advantage of Glenn Dorsey is a fireable mistake. Employing Dick “Father Time” Curl to mismanage the clock is another fireable error. Yeah, Herm was put in a tough situation trying to work through all Peterson’s misjudgments. But Herm hasn’t helped the situation. 85 Chan Gailey: I was initially against the Gailey hire. I was wrong. The dude is creative and sharp. On the fly, he came up with a strategy that allowed Tyler Thigpen to pass himself off as a starting quarterback. Gailey made one big mistake all season. He took the ball out of Thigpen’s hands at the end of the Jets game. Thigpen was having a great day, and for some reason Gailey tried to run out the clock with the running game. Maybe Herm told Gailey to do it. We’ll never know. Gailey took full responsibility. Other than that, I have no complaints about Chan. 52 Gunther Cunningham: You know I championed Gunther’s rehiring? Gunther and Ty Law are my fireable offenses. The game has passed Gunther. He had his day as a defensive coordinator. Or maybe Gun was just another guy that Marty and Derrick Thomas carried all those years. Whatever, the Squirt Gun has been fired. It’s out of juice.
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12-31-2008, 12:08 AM	#2
pr_capone THREEPEAT!!! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: NWMO Casino cash: $9948214	Entirely too generous with Peterson. Possibly so with Herm. Gunther is a 0.
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12-31-2008, 07:13 AM	#4
rocks Box of Rocks Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Joplin Missouri Casino cash: $10004900	I think he needs to dig a little deeper into the coaching staff. What about the d-line coach or the conditioning coach?? The coach's have been bad at all levels and need to be cleaned out. What does that say about Coach Edwards when he hires a staff that is subpar!
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12-31-2008, 07:14 AM	#5
beach tribe Keep doubting J MFing Houston Join Date: May 2007 Location: ft.lauderdale Casino cash: $3918036	I really feel sorry for Gun. He sucks ass. And he has to know it by now. He should have stayed retired. At least that way we could have remembered him a decent coach. And he could have remembered himself that way too. FAIL.
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12-31-2008, 07:32 AM	#9
Chiefs_Mike_Topeka Rest in Peace Zachary Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Topeka Casino cash: $10005025	I am a huge Gunther fan, would love to see him have the same level of success he did earlier. That said he should receive a (minus) grade. He completely has no clue what it takes to compile even a decent defense anymore. His "famous" blitz packages are a complete joke..... hell my wife can tell you during the game what players are blitzing as soon as they line up at the "line of skirmish". So be proud Gunther your defenses have been figured out by my wife; God Bless her; who thinks a Wil and Sam linebacker are their names. __________________ Zachary, my little man; I miss you and I Love You.
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12-31-2008, 07:42 AM	#11
Stryker Super Bowl LVIII Champions! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Casino cash: $-395364	I agree with the Clark assessment. What REALLY pisses me off is how fast out the gate the Browns and Jets are moving – yet we are sitting idle spinning wheels and no word or action being taken by him. He needs to get off of his ass! __________________ Super Bowl LVIII Champions!
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12-31-2008, 08:40 AM	#13
Chiefnj2 In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Casino cash: $6654388	Screw that. Clark gets a 0 for not firing Herm and Carl at the end of last year. __________________ Mismanaging the clock.
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