Chiefs Expect to be disappointed because there will be no talent on this team in the future

RedThat · 09-28-2009, 04:15 PM

Im no psychic, and neither do I have a crystal ball in front of me to predict the future. I make my statements clearly based in relation to how this dismal franchise operates. I hate to sound doom and gloom but it is leading towards that because of our football reality.

I don't care if we hired Scott Pioli and hired a coach from the Parcell's tree. This means absolutely nothing. when you really get down to the main core of things, these guys will have no value on this franchise because they ain't the main guys behind the curtain. They're not in full control of football operations, they're not ultimately responsible for calling the shots nor pay the bills. They're just puppets obeying what their master wants from them.

Seriously though, when you get down to it we have a sh*tty owner. Yeah Scott Pioli is who the fans wanted and Clark satisfied our desire in that regard. He comes from New England therefore we should all be excited because he comes from a winner and knows how to put championship teams together right? Im not gonna buy into this. If you really payed close attention the operations around 1 Arrowhead drive haven't changed. The Chiefs are still the same old Chiefs. They operate in the same manner and fashion just like when Herm and Carl were here. Just different men this time around.

Seriously, it shouldn't take a ****n rocket scientist to figure this out. We're being deceived into thinking this team is gonna turn it around and build a winner. we tune in and watch the games every Sunday, and why do we cheer? Because we want good things to happen. We want to win for **** sakes. That's why every fan watches sports and if you for one minute think that you can dodge your way around that, you're only fooling yourself.

I honestly believe these guys are no different then salesmen trying to sell themselves to make you convinced why you should buy their product. Seriously, Im tired of this ****n sh*t!! When Herm was here, they signed these ****n castoffs from other teams, and as fans were lead into believing that what they were doing was right. How many times do you recall Herm say the best teams on paper don't win? As a result, they went out and signed trash...It is evident when you see them sign guys like Alphonso Boone, Damion McIntosh, an old Donnie Edwards, Adrian Jones...And these guys are players other teams didn't even consider keeping.

Then, this time around, new regime, BUT, now were being told the team with the best players don't win. you have to have the "RIGHT" 53 players?! Well, **** off! This is clearly a ploy. Its a total cover up for an owner who is ****n cheap and doesn't wish to spend the money. What's gonna be the excuse? Clark isn't spending the money because he is devoting it towards stadium renovations. Gimme a break. If we take a close look at the off-season we signed 2nd and 3rd tier players who aren't gonna make a difference or impact your team in any sort of way. And it's the same sh*t they sign "old" guys or injury riddled players who clearly aren't what they used to be.

You can't take other teams scraps and expect to build a good team? That is my point. The saying is true, you can't make chicken salad out of chicken sh*t. There is no excuse for this bullsh*t that is going on. None. They've clearly had opportunties to upgrade the talent on the roster and what did they do? They were there usual passive selves. They waited waited and signed scraps, while the good talent was there they didn't cash in on those opportunities. No excuses when you're 30 someodd million under the cap.

I think it's important to "read between the lines". Pioli or no Pioli, Peterson or no Peterson the fact is Chief fans are getting ripped off. And I anticipate they will not win any time soon nor in the future. the reason is simple, the operations haven't changed at all. you have no talent, can you win? Absolutely not. And it's a shame because the fans of Kansas City love their football, while Clark doesn't relate to your passion nor has any regards towards it whatsoever.

**Bane** · 09-28-2009, 04:21 PM

To me you can sum up our last 10 seasons as this.Draft like shit,play like shit.We have 1 draft pick in the post Marty era that stands out in my opinion.Jared Allen.1 draft pick in 10 years.Look back at all the pro bowlers and solid players that came out of the draft during the Marty years and its easy to see why we have failed as a team.No Im not campaigning for Marty or Marty ball,Im only saying if you draft like a bunch of crack whores eating lsd sandwiches,this is the kinda of team you end up with.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 09-28-2009, 04:22 PM

You guys must not have gotten the memo. David Glass bought a majority portion of this franchise 3 years ago.

RedThat · 09-28-2009, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by bane_58

To me you can sum up our last 10 seasons as this.Draft like shit,play like shit.We have 1 draft pick in the post Marty era that stands out in my opinion.Jared Allen.1 draft pick in 10 years.Look back at all the pro bowlers and solid players that came out of the draft during the Marty years and its easy to see why we have failed as a team.No Im not campaigning for Marty or Marty ball,Im only saying if you draft like a bunch of crack whores eating lsd sandwiches,this is the kinda of team you end up with.

Yup. And the worst part is, they've had top 10 picks and screwed up. Sims, Dorsey is not looking like the impact player expected, and I think their was clearly better talent sitting at 3 when they chose Tyson Jackson. Im telling you I put this team in the same class as the Raiders, Bengals, Lions, and Browns. All these teams year after year have top picks and still have sh*tty teams to show for. I think the Chiefs are headed in that direction and already are imo. I just think when youre a sh*t franchise youre gonna be sh*t regardless of what you do.

**DeezNutz** · 09-28-2009, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

You guys must not have gotten the memo. David Glass bought a majority portion of this franchise 3 years ago.

Dayton Moore's nickname is Scott Pioli.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 09-28-2009, 04:42 PM

I knew you'd come around.

chiefs1111 · 09-28-2009, 04:43 PM

Dick V and his shitty drafting is as much too blame as anything else. I think his drafts are worse then Herms

Micjones · 09-28-2009, 04:46 PM

I'm not ready to take a hard line against the new regime yet.
I think it'd be foolish to do so.

It's obvious that mistakes have been made but we're throwing a tantrum after each loss and pretending just before the next kickoff that we've forgotten what happened just 1 week before. It's the very definition of insanity.

kstater · 09-28-2009, 04:54 PM

Clearly the team should just close up shop then. Make Arrowhead into a soccer stadium or something.

**DeezNutz** · 09-28-2009, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefs1111

Dick V and his shitty drafting is as much too blame as anything else. I think his drafts are worse then Herms

Herm's reputation as a talent evaluator was far overblown, but it's an insult to lump him in the same sentence with Grandpa in this regard.

The latter was the most incompetent sack of shit when it came to the draft that it wasn't even funny. We have nothing from his tenure. Nothing.

Except a punter, who is, I'm sorry CP faithful, somewhat overrated. He's good. A keeper. But not a Pro-Bowler.

Dick Vermeil was the Alomar shrub that so fans gladly rubbed our genitalia against.

RedThat · 09-28-2009, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

I'm not ready to take a hard line against the new regime yet.
I think it'd be foolish to do so.

It's obvious that mistakes have been made but we're throwing a tantrum after each loss and pretending just before the next kickoff that we've forgotten what happened just 1 week before. It's the very definition of insanity.

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

We're led into believing this team is gonna turn it around. The way they sell themselves to the fans leading them into believing that what they are doing is "the right way" when clearly its not. it just leads to the same old, losses. As a fan you expect to see good things , you're hoping that it'll turn around but it doesn't.

You know the way they operate is not gonna build a winner, but yet you expect a winner. They do the same thing, leading you to believe it is right, and you expect and hope for a winner. That's insanity my friend.

Bunch of ****n a**holes they are.

**Bearcat** · 09-28-2009, 05:01 PM

It's all part of Clark's evil plan to move the team to Columbus.

teedubya · 09-28-2009, 05:04 PM

The Ghosts of Lombardi, Bill Walsh and Papa Bear Halas combined into one super soul couldnt do shit with this team.

tonyetony · 09-28-2009, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Micjones

I'm not ready to take a hard line against the new regime yet.
I think it'd be foolish to do so.

It's obvious that mistakes have been made but we're throwing a tantrum after each loss and pretending just before the next kickoff that we've forgotten what happened just 1 week before. It's the very definition of insanity.

I interpreted his post as more of a tirade directed toward ownership than the employees.

|Zach| · 09-28-2009, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by RedThat

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

Because this past offseason was the franchise doing the same things over and over that it has before.

09-28-2009, 04:15 PM
RedThat Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Earth Casino cash: $10004900	Expect to be disappointed because there will be no talent on this team in the future Im no psychic, and neither do I have a crystal ball in front of me to predict the future. I make my statements clearly based in relation to how this dismal franchise operates. I hate to sound doom and gloom but it is leading towards that because of our football reality. I don't care if we hired Scott Pioli and hired a coach from the Parcell's tree. This means absolutely nothing. when you really get down to the main core of things, these guys will have no value on this franchise because they ain't the main guys behind the curtain. They're not in full control of football operations, they're not ultimately responsible for calling the shots nor pay the bills. They're just puppets obeying what their master wants from them. Seriously though, when you get down to it we have a shtty owner. Yeah Scott Pioli is who the fans wanted and Clark satisfied our desire in that regard. He comes from New England therefore we should all be excited because he comes from a winner and knows how to put championship teams together right? Im not gonna buy into this. If you really payed close attention the operations around 1 Arrowhead drive haven't changed. The Chiefs are still the same old Chiefs. They operate in the same manner and fashion just like when Herm and Carl were here. Just different men this time around. Seriously, it shouldn't take a *n rocket scientist to figure this out. We're being deceived into thinking this team is gonna turn it around and build a winner. we tune in and watch the games every Sunday, and why do we cheer? Because we want good things to happen. We want to win for sakes. That's why every fan watches sports and if you for one minute think that you can dodge your way around that, you're only fooling yourself. I honestly believe these guys are no different then salesmen trying to sell themselves to make you convinced why you should buy their product. Seriously, Im tired of this *n sht!! When Herm was here, they signed these **n castoffs from other teams, and as fans were lead into believing that what they were doing was right. How many times do you recall Herm say the best teams on paper don't win? As a result, they went out and signed trash...It is evident when you see them sign guys like Alphonso Boone, Damion McIntosh, an old Donnie Edwards, Adrian Jones...And these guys are players other teams didn't even consider keeping. Then, this time around, new regime, BUT, now were being told the team with the best players don't win. you have to have the "RIGHT" 53 players?! Well, off! This is clearly a ploy. Its a total cover up for an owner who is *n cheap and doesn't wish to spend the money. What's gonna be the excuse? Clark isn't spending the money because he is devoting it towards stadium renovations. Gimme a break. If we take a close look at the off-season we signed 2nd and 3rd tier players who aren't gonna make a difference or impact your team in any sort of way. And it's the same sht they sign "old" guys or injury riddled players who clearly aren't what they used to be. You can't take other teams scraps and expect to build a good team? That is my point. The saying is true, you can't make chicken salad out of chicken sht. There is no excuse for this bullsht that is going on. None. They've clearly had opportunties to upgrade the talent on the roster and what did they do? They were there usual passive selves. They waited waited and signed scraps, while the good talent was there they didn't cash in on those opportunities. No excuses when you're 30 someodd million under the cap. I think it's important to "read between the lines". Pioli or no Pioli, Peterson or no Peterson the fact is Chief fans are getting ripped off. And I anticipate they will not win any time soon nor in the future. the reason is simple, the operations haven't changed at all. you have no talent, can you win? Absolutely not. And it's a shame because the fans of Kansas City love their football, while Clark doesn't relate to your passion nor has any regards towards it whatsoever.
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09-28-2009, 04:21 PM	#2
Bane C.H.I.E.F.S Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: **** your face Casino cash: $10005055	To me you can sum up our last 10 seasons as this.Draft like shit,play like shit.We have 1 draft pick in the post Marty era that stands out in my opinion.Jared Allen.1 draft pick in 10 years.Look back at all the pro bowlers and solid players that came out of the draft during the Marty years and its easy to see why we have failed as a team.No Im not campaigning for Marty or Marty ball,Im only saying if you draft like a bunch of crack whores eating lsd sandwiches,this is the kinda of team you end up with.
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09-28-2009, 04:42 PM	#6
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7239572	I knew you'd come around. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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chiefs1111 In Search of a Life Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $-2176834	Dick V and his shitty drafting is as much too blame as anything else. I think his drafts are worse then Herms
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09-28-2009, 04:46 PM	#8
Micjones Whose house? Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: KCMO Casino cash: $10005180	I'm not ready to take a hard line against the new regime yet. I think it'd be foolish to do so. It's obvious that mistakes have been made but we're throwing a tantrum after each loss and pretending just before the next kickoff that we've forgotten what happened just 1 week before. It's the very definition of insanity. __________________ It's like when I'm right I'm right, when I'm wrong I could been right, so I'm still right cause I coulda been wrong.
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09-28-2009, 04:54 PM	#9
kstater Custom User Title Join Date: Jan 2007 Casino cash: $-1603437	Clearly the team should just close up shop then. Make Arrowhead into a soccer stadium or something.
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09-28-2009, 05:01 PM	#12
Bearcat Would an idiot do that? Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Arizona Casino cash: $-905069	It's all part of Clark's evil plan to move the team to Columbus.
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09-28-2009, 05:04 PM	#13
teedubya Most Valuable Poster Join Date: Oct 2003 Casino cash: $8993042	The Ghosts of Lombardi, Bill Walsh and Papa Bear Halas combined into one super soul couldnt do shit with this team.
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