FoxSports: 2009 NFL draft pick-by-pick analysis

**Tribal Warfare** · 04-30-2009, 09:20 AM

2009 NFL draft pick-by-pick analysis

**The Franchise** · 04-30-2009, 09:22 AM

3. KANSAS CITY CHIEFS
TYSON JACKSON, DE, LSU -

CZAR'S FRONT OFFICE TAKE: Tyson Jackson became news last week when word leaked from the Chiefs that they wanted this very versatile defensive end. Being with the Patriots, new GM Scott Pioli was looking for a multi-dimensional defensive player. Jackson has been compared more to Ty Warren than Richard Seymour. He will play end in the Chiefs' new 3-4 alignment and slide inside in the four-man pass rush. However, he better be more like Seymour than Warren. This is the third straight first rounder the Chiefs have spent on a pass rusher or defensive lineman. Pioli was so desperate to get out of this spot and the $35 million in bonus money that he probably will have to eventually pay Jackson that he tried to give the Lions the pick, asking for Detroit's second first-round pick, 20th overall, and their second-round pick, 33rd overall, as compensation even though the Chiefs would be taking a bath on value. Based on the new points chart, the third overall pick was worth 2,200 points and the Lions' compensation was valued at only 1,430 points, well short of what they should have asked for.

SCHRAGER ON THE SCENE:The Chiefs go with Jackson, who curiously wasn't even invited to the NFL Draft. This makes for an awkward moment for the Radio City crowd. Like waiting for Godot to show up in a blinged out Armani suit. No one comes out, and an announcer with some booming, incredible voice scrambles to ask the fans what they want to hear on the loud speakers — "Smells Like Teen Spirit" or some other Seattle grunge era song. Jackson joins his college teammate Glenn Dorsey in Kansas City's Clancy Pendergrast 3-4 defense D-line. Oh, and this just in...Clancy Pendergrast —STILL is the best name in football.

L.A. Chieffan · 04-30-2009, 09:36 AM

makes me feel better that they tried to trade, but with the lions? actually that kinda makes sense

htismaqe · 04-30-2009, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23

Oh, and this just in...Clancy Pendergrast —STILL is the best name in football.

He spelled it wrong. It's Clancy PenderGAST.

beer bacon · 04-30-2009, 10:46 PM

I find it hard to take any sports analyst seriously who thinks Seymour is a better player than Warren. Ask any serious New England fan who he/she thinks is better.

CoMoChief · 05-02-2009, 10:55 AM

And this isn't the 3rd year straight taking a DL player in the 1st rd.

We drafted Hali, then Dwayne Bowe

DrRyan · 05-02-2009, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23

Clancy Pendergrast —STILL is the best name in football.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

And this isn't the 3rd year straight taking a DL player in the 1st rd.

We drafted Hali, then Dwayne Bowe

Par for the course. FoxSports.com has some of the worst sports writers around IMO.

bowener · 05-02-2009, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DrRyan

Par for the course. FoxSports.com has some of the worst sports writers around IMO.

If anybody disagrees with this statement, go read the foxsports 2010 mock, that should get a good laugh out of you.

MoreLemonPledge · 05-03-2009, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

And this isn't the 3rd year straight taking a DL player in the 1st rd.

We drafted Hali, then Dwayne Bowe

I saw that, too.

veist · 05-03-2009, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by bowener

If anybody disagrees with this statement, go read the foxsports 2010 mock, that should get a good laugh out of you.

I lol'd hard at that thing, omg its like a trainwreck in super slo-mo.

kcbubb · 05-07-2009, 09:44 AM

That can't be true. The Chiefs get 20 and 33 for #3. I don't believe Pioli makes that trade. I probably would have, but I don't think Pioli does.

Plus, how do the Lions not make that trade if it was offered????

who would you rather have?

Stafford QB with record total contract and guaranteed money
Pettigrew TE
Delmas S

or

#1 Jason Smith LT at Jake Long money last year
#3 Matt Stafford QB at something closer to Matt Ryan money

T-post Tom · 05-07-2009, 12:05 PM

Michael Crabtree has discovered the NFL version of penicillin:

"Yes, he has size and speed, but why pass on Michael Crabtree? Well, because the silly Crabtree dissed the Raiders, and Davis would have none of that."

bdeg · 05-07-2009, 01:12 PM

genius, Heyward Bey should've been paying attention(although I'm sure he's not too upset to get #7 money)

bdeg · 05-07-2009, 01:16 PM

the only way the lions don't make that trade is if they weren't crazy about Smith and Monroe, although I don't know their cap situation, I guess maybe they didn't want to pay out two top 3 contracts? tempting deal considering where the value was, tough call

htismaqe · 05-07-2009, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by bdeg

the only way the lions don't make that trade is if they weren't crazy about Smith and Monroe, although I don't know their cap situation, I guess maybe they didn't want to pay out two top 3 contracts? tempting deal considering where the value was, tough call

I'm guessing they didn't want to deal with the contract. They've already thrown so much money at the OT position...

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The Franchise Most Valuable Villain Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $2065047	3. KANSAS CITY CHIEFS TYSON JACKSON, DE, LSU - CZAR'S FRONT OFFICE TAKE: Tyson Jackson became news last week when word leaked from the Chiefs that they wanted this very versatile defensive end. Being with the Patriots, new GM Scott Pioli was looking for a multi-dimensional defensive player. Jackson has been compared more to Ty Warren than Richard Seymour. He will play end in the Chiefs' new 3-4 alignment and slide inside in the four-man pass rush. However, he better be more like Seymour than Warren. This is the third straight first rounder the Chiefs have spent on a pass rusher or defensive lineman. Pioli was so desperate to get out of this spot and the $35 million in bonus money that he probably will have to eventually pay Jackson that he tried to give the Lions the pick, asking for Detroit's second first-round pick, 20th overall, and their second-round pick, 33rd overall, as compensation even though the Chiefs would be taking a bath on value. Based on the new points chart, the third overall pick was worth 2,200 points and the Lions' compensation was valued at only 1,430 points, well short of what they should have asked for. SCHRAGER ON THE SCENE:The Chiefs go with Jackson, who curiously wasn't even invited to the NFL Draft. This makes for an awkward moment for the Radio City crowd. Like waiting for Godot to show up in a blinged out Armani suit. No one comes out, and an announcer with some booming, incredible voice scrambles to ask the fans what they want to hear on the loud speakers — "Smells Like Teen Spirit" or some other Seattle grunge era song. Jackson joins his college teammate Glenn Dorsey in Kansas City's Clancy Pendergrast 3-4 defense D-line. Oh, and this just in...Clancy Pendergrast —STILL is the best name in football. Last edited by The Franchise; 04-30-2009 at 09:41 AM..
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04-30-2009, 10:46 PM	#5
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05-07-2009, 09:44 AM	#11
kcbubb Veteran Join Date: Nov 2008 Casino cash: $5036719	That can't be true. The Chiefs get 20 and 33 for #3. I don't believe Pioli makes that trade. I probably would have, but I don't think Pioli does. Plus, how do the Lions not make that trade if it was offered???? who would you rather have? Stafford QB with record total contract and guaranteed money Pettigrew TE Delmas S or #1 Jason Smith LT at Jake Long money last year #3 Matt Stafford QB at something closer to Matt Ryan money
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04-30-2009, 09:36 AM	#3
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05-07-2009, 12:05 PM	#12
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bdeg Veteran Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: iowa Casino cash: $10004900	genius, Heyward Bey should've been paying attention(although I'm sure he's not too upset to get #7 money)
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05-07-2009, 01:16 PM	#14
bdeg Veteran Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: iowa Casino cash: $10004900	the only way the lions don't make that trade is if they weren't crazy about Smith and Monroe, although I don't know their cap situation, I guess maybe they didn't want to pay out two top 3 contracts? tempting deal considering where the value was, tough call
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