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MOhillbilly · 03-11-2010, 11:16 AM

heirloom tomatoes- Ive never grown anything but early producers and genetic varieties, but these hierloom varaties have me intrigued.
I know some of you have gone over the diffrent varieties you like so these questions are for you.

What are the early producers(a hundred days is insane to me)? best varieties that are fungus and rot resistant? Most fruit? drought resistants? Afid/moth/leaf cutter resistance.
I like an acidic tomatoe with lots of seed pulp and soft flesh.
if i could just plant say two types what do you suggest?
Sound of fellas.

Dinny Bossa Nova · 03-11-2010, 11:37 AM

I've got a few varieties started. How far are you from Springtown?

I will have lots of extras. I'll be more than happy to hook you up.

My two favorite varities are Watermelon Beefsteak and Missouri Pink Love Apple. But choosing only two is difficult for me.

Dinny

Groves · 03-11-2010, 11:40 AM

MOhillbilly is near springtown, as am I.

I'm all ears on this topic.

MOhillbilly · 03-11-2010, 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dinny Blues

I've got a few varieties started. How far are you from Springtown?

I will have lots of extras. I'll be more than happy to hook you up.

My two favorite varities are Watermelon Beefsteak and Missouri Pink Love Apple. But choosing only two is difficult for me.

Dinny

the other side of fantastic caverns.

Stanley Nickels · 03-11-2010, 11:56 AM

I have absolutely no idea how to start a garden-- I'm a first time homeowner and would like to begin one this year. don't mean to hijack this thread at all, but can anyone recommend a good resource for such a novice to the gardening world?

Alton deFlat · 03-11-2010, 11:59 AM

I'm going to list more then two, since you might have trouble finding some of these. I'm also going to give a brief description.

Arkansas Traveler (Traveler): This is a premier hot weather producer with abundant harvests of 7-8 ounce, juicy, rich, sweet delicious round rose colored fruit. A classic heirloom developed 35 years ago for Southern US gardeners and growers by the University of Arkansas, its proper name is Traveler although it is called Arkansas Traveler by many companies. It has proved itself to be a marvelous producer in all climates, is solidly dependable, disease resistant, and easily tolerates high heat and humidity. Indeterminate. 85 days.

Cherokee Purple: Very productive plants bear loads of 10 to 12 oz. dusky rose/purple fruit with deep brick red interiors. The tomatoes are absolutely delicious with a pleasantly sweet and rich flavor. With thin skin and soft flesh, the fruit is somewhat perishable, but they taste so good they will be eaten quickly anyhow. Heirloom from Tennessee. Indeterminate. 80 days.

Eva Purple Ball: Huge yields of sweet, juicy round fruit that is delicious for salads, sandwiches, and a variety of other uses. Dark pink fruit is smooth and usually about 2 inches across. This is an heirloom variety from Germany. Indeterminate. 70 days.

German Johnson: An old-time favorite heirloom from North Carolina and Virginia features tall plants and a fairly early harvest of large, slightly ribbed pink-red tomatoes averaging 1 lb. They are meaty with few seeds and really excellent flavor, perfect for adding delicious taste to a sandwich or salad. This one has stood the test of time for a number of reasons, but number one is its truly superior flavor. Indeterminate. 80 days.

Mortgage Lifter: An old pink variety still in demand by gardeners. Well-shaped, large fruit is very meaty with few seeds. Folklore says variety named by a man who sold this crop to pay off a farm he was about to lose. Indeterminate. 85 days.

Sioux: This heirloom variety was originally released in 1944 by the University of Nebraska and is worth planting today because of its incredible flavor and reliably large harvests even in hot weather. Although this appears to be an average size (6 oz.), unassuming red tomato, you just have to grow it to believe how good it is -- sweet yet tangy and full of those rich, complex flavors that make a delicious tomato memorable. Extraordinary taste in a round, red tomato. Indeterminate. 70 days.

Dinny Bossa Nova · 03-11-2010, 12:05 PM

I'm in the airport vicinity.

I started way more than I'll need. I thought I'd try selling some on CL to pay for my lights, but a neighbor is going to plow a couple more patches for us this year.

I will grow tomatoes this year to the complete limit.

I'm starting some new to us squash varities this weekend and three kinds of seedless watermelons.

My garlic is already coming up.

I'm all teeth.

Dinny

tooge · 03-11-2010, 12:05 PM

My favorite for taste is brandywine, but it itsn't the earliest. It is worth it at the end of the summer though. You are gonna lose alot of the resistance to disease and insects with any heirloom type I think, but the flavor is soooo good. other good ones would be
arkansas traveler which shuld do well in your area and black kriim. You can get the seeds on line I'm sure.

Dinny Bossa Nova · 03-11-2010, 12:19 PM

The heirloom tomates I have started

Watermelon Beefsteak

Missouri Pink Love Apple

Pink Brandywine

Black Brandywine

Oxheart

Amish Paste

Mortgage Lifter

We dropped from the rotation

Purple Cherokee

Park's Whopper

Black Krim

MO, I bet you'd like the Mortgage Lifter, based on the OP.

Dinny

MOhillbilly · 03-11-2010, 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dinny Blues

I'm in the airport vicinity.

I started way more than I'll need. I thought I'd try selling some on CL to pay for my lights, but a neighbor is going to plow a couple more patches for us this year.

I will grow tomatoes this year to the complete limit.

I'm starting some new to us squash varities this weekend and three kinds of seedless watermelons.

My garlic is already coming up.

I'm all teeth.

Dinny

hit me up when youre ready and still willing. If you dont wanna meet at your place we can meet at evergreen off 160 if thats cool or my place i dont care.
You should hit SOMO up they would probably buy from you.
Trade some baby chicks? Slab of bacon next fall?

Edit- or if you prefer wild game i have a constant flow of deer,turkey,duck,elk,trout,catfish,ect....or a load of firewood. ive got some apple if your a smoker.

Edit II- i also have loads of chicken manure & some rabbit manure.

MOhillbilly · 03-11-2010, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dinny Blues

The heirloom tomates I have started

Watermelon Beefsteak

Missouri Pink Love Apple

Pink Brandywine

Black Brandywine

Oxheart

Amish Paste

Mortgage Lifter

We dropped from the rotation

Purple Cherokee

Park's Whopper

Black Krim

MO, I bet you'd like the Mortgage Lifter, based on the OP.

Dinny

I checked out the mortgage lifter in the burgess cat. Havent got my burpees and would rather buy starters since i dont wanna mess w/ seed/pods/lights ect.
Maybe nextyear.

MOhillbilly · 03-11-2010, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stanley Nickels

I have absolutely no idea how to start a garden-- I'm a first time homeowner and would like to begin one this year. don't mean to hijack this thread at all, but can anyone recommend a good resource for such a novice to the gardening world?

1st thing is you need to find out what zone you live in. What are you looking to put out? Google raised beds.

Dinny Bossa Nova · 03-11-2010, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MOhillbilly

hit me up when youre ready and still willing. If you dont wanna meet at your place we can meet at evergreen off 160 if thats cool or my place i dont care.
You should hit SOMO up they would probably buy from you.
Trade some baby chicks? Slab of bacon next fall?

Edit- or if you prefer wild game i have a constant flow of deer,turkey,duck,elk,trout,catfish,ect....or a load of firewood. ive got some apple if your a smoker.

Edit II- i also have loads of chicken manure & some rabbit manure.

I have had a hard time finding kick-ass bacon when the kitchen is full of fresh tomatoes. I'm willing to do (just about) whatever it takes to get some of that bacon.

How about crappie or bluegill?

I'd catch my own, but I'm not a fisherman, I'm a donator of jigs and hooks. It's okay though, I have a 39cent rule.

Dinny

Saccopoo · 03-11-2010, 01:29 PM

I'll second Tooge and suggest Brandywine. I've always had excellent results with them - huge, meaty fruit with the soft flesh you are talking about. Bumper crops. I usually end up with more Brandywine than anything else.

For the second variety, I'd suggest Old German. Smaller sized fruit, but soft, sweet and succulent. You've got to watch them carefully as they ripen because they get there really quickly, but you'll be very pleased with the results.

If you want to go the opposite direction, Green Zebras are fantastic. Maybe the best tasting tomato out there, but they are thick skinned and a little tough.

**SAUTO** · 03-11-2010, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dinny Blues

I have had a hard time finding kick-ass bacon when the kitchen is full of fresh tomatoes. I'm willing to do (just about) whatever it takes to get some of that bacon.

How about crappie or bluegill?

I'd catch my own, but I'm not a fisherman, I'm a donator of jigs and hooks. It's okay though, I have a 39cent rule.

Dinny

most years i have an unlimited supply due to the fact my FIL is an AVID fisherman (i couldnt fish to save my life) he fishes 7 days a week and then goes to florida for 2 months to hit their tournaments in the winter. i'll hit you up if i get a shit ton again this year. i'm not TOO awful far away and go to buffalo a couple times a month

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03-11-2010, 11:37 AM	#2
Dinny Bossa Nova MVP Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $9990442	I've got a few varieties started. How far are you from Springtown? I will have lots of extras. I'll be more than happy to hook you up. My two favorite varities are Watermelon Beefsteak and Missouri Pink Love Apple. But choosing only two is difficult for me. Dinny
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03-11-2010, 11:40 AM	#3
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03-11-2010, 11:59 AM	#6
Alton deFlat The Sicilian Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Joplin, Missouri Casino cash: $10004900	I'm going to list more then two, since you might have trouble finding some of these. I'm also going to give a brief description. Arkansas Traveler (Traveler): This is a premier hot weather producer with abundant harvests of 7-8 ounce, juicy, rich, sweet delicious round rose colored fruit. A classic heirloom developed 35 years ago for Southern US gardeners and growers by the University of Arkansas, its proper name is Traveler although it is called Arkansas Traveler by many companies. It has proved itself to be a marvelous producer in all climates, is solidly dependable, disease resistant, and easily tolerates high heat and humidity. Indeterminate. 85 days. Cherokee Purple: Very productive plants bear loads of 10 to 12 oz. dusky rose/purple fruit with deep brick red interiors. The tomatoes are absolutely delicious with a pleasantly sweet and rich flavor. With thin skin and soft flesh, the fruit is somewhat perishable, but they taste so good they will be eaten quickly anyhow. Heirloom from Tennessee. Indeterminate. 80 days. Eva Purple Ball: Huge yields of sweet, juicy round fruit that is delicious for salads, sandwiches, and a variety of other uses. Dark pink fruit is smooth and usually about 2 inches across. This is an heirloom variety from Germany. Indeterminate. 70 days. German Johnson: An old-time favorite heirloom from North Carolina and Virginia features tall plants and a fairly early harvest of large, slightly ribbed pink-red tomatoes averaging 1 lb. They are meaty with few seeds and really excellent flavor, perfect for adding delicious taste to a sandwich or salad. This one has stood the test of time for a number of reasons, but number one is its truly superior flavor. Indeterminate. 80 days. Mortgage Lifter: An old pink variety still in demand by gardeners. Well-shaped, large fruit is very meaty with few seeds. Folklore says variety named by a man who sold this crop to pay off a farm he was about to lose. Indeterminate. 85 days. Sioux: This heirloom variety was originally released in 1944 by the University of Nebraska and is worth planting today because of its incredible flavor and reliably large harvests even in hot weather. Although this appears to be an average size (6 oz.), unassuming red tomato, you just have to grow it to believe how good it is -- sweet yet tangy and full of those rich, complex flavors that make a delicious tomato memorable. Extraordinary taste in a round, red tomato. Indeterminate. 70 days. Last edited by Alton deFlat; 03-11-2010 at 12:38 PM..
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03-11-2010, 12:05 PM	#7
Dinny Bossa Nova MVP Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $9990442	I'm in the airport vicinity. I started way more than I'll need. I thought I'd try selling some on CL to pay for my lights, but a neighbor is going to plow a couple more patches for us this year. I will grow tomatoes this year to the complete limit. I'm starting some new to us squash varities this weekend and three kinds of seedless watermelons. My garlic is already coming up. I'm all teeth. Dinny
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03-11-2010, 12:05 PM	#8
tooge MVP Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Liberty, MO Casino cash: $744112	My favorite for taste is brandywine, but it itsn't the earliest. It is worth it at the end of the summer though. You are gonna lose alot of the resistance to disease and insects with any heirloom type I think, but the flavor is soooo good. other good ones would be arkansas traveler which shuld do well in your area and black kriim. You can get the seeds on line I'm sure.
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03-11-2010, 12:19 PM	#9
Dinny Bossa Nova MVP Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $9990442	The heirloom tomates I have started Watermelon Beefsteak Missouri Pink Love Apple Pink Brandywine Black Brandywine Oxheart Amish Paste Mortgage Lifter We dropped from the rotation Purple Cherokee Park's Whopper Black Krim MO, I bet you'd like the Mortgage Lifter, based on the OP. Dinny
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03-11-2010, 01:29 PM	#14
Saccopoo Kindness in words... Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Zion Casino cash: $10025483	I'll second Tooge and suggest Brandywine. I've always had excellent results with them - huge, meaty fruit with the soft flesh you are talking about. Bumper crops. I usually end up with more Brandywine than anything else. For the second variety, I'd suggest Old German. Smaller sized fruit, but soft, sweet and succulent. You've got to watch them carefully as they ripen because they get there really quickly, but you'll be very pleased with the results. If you want to go the opposite direction, Green Zebras are fantastic. Maybe the best tasting tomato out there, but they are thick skinned and a little tough.
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