Life Advice wanted on dealing with Auto-Dealer Service Dept

**petegz28** · 01-17-2012, 03:19 PM

So I bough ta new Maxima back in June. Ever since I've had the car I have heard a ticking that goes with the wheels. You can really hear it in a garage because of the echo and such. So, I mention it to the dealer one day when I was getting the oil changed. He said they heard it but wanted me to bring it back when the suspension guy was working. Ok, fair enough.

Time goes by, and I start noticing the CVT (Transmission) is a little louder than it had been. So I call the dealer and take it in yesterday and told them about what I think is the transmission noise as well as the ticking. All day goes by and I hear nothing.

I call them this morning and they said they saw nothing wrong and couldn't hear the ticking that they claimed they could hear before. I said bullshit. This was at 10:00am this morning. So they said they would look again, 2:30 rolls around and I hear nothing so I call and ask them what's going on so I can make arrangments to get the car if I need too. The guys says he hadn't heard anything and he would go talk to the foreman and call me back. I told him I was getting ready to leave work in about an hour.

45 minutes later I still haven't heard anything back one way or the other and now my patience is starting to get a little thin.

Would you be talking to the Manager or play the wait and see?

**Predarat** · 01-17-2012, 03:21 PM

When dealing with Auto Dealershits skip all AntiFreeze ettiquite and go straight for the FlamingAidsTree.

**petegz28** · 01-17-2012, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Predarat

When dealing with Auto Dealershits skip all AntiFreeze ettiquite and go straight for the FlamingAidsTree.

So does that mean go straight to the manager and quit dicking around with the other guy?

vailpass · 01-17-2012, 03:24 PM

Don't.

**petegz28** · 01-17-2012, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass

Don't.

Don't what?

vailpass · 01-17-2012, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

Don't what?

Sorry for not being helpful. I meant if they are jerking you around don't deal with them, go over them.
Here is an excerpt from an article I sent my young nephew a while back...

If all else fails ...

If you aren't treated professionally or fairly -- or the shop seems unable to fix your car's problem -- there are two steps to take.

The first is to speak directly with the owner/manager of the dealership. He should want happy customers who believe they have been treated fairly -- and who will come back to him for their next vehicle. A word from the owner/manager to the service adviser can work miracles.

Call him as often as necessary and concisely and politely explain the nature of the problem. Point out that you spent a large amount of money at his business and that you expect to be treated fairly.

If this approach does not work, the next step is to move up the food chain to the automaker the dealership represents. Ford, GM, Honda and other companies don't like it when dealers aren't satisfying their customers and can bring enormous pressure to bear to make it right.

Call the regional customer-relations officer (or corporate headquarters); explain your problem, as above, with supporting documentation; and ask for help. You will find the contact information in your owner's manual.

Don't make accusations or threats; this won't help your cause. Instead, simply state that Dealer "X" has been unable to resolve the problem and that you are disappointed by the manner in which you've been treated.

Explain that you enjoy your vehicle but that the service experience has been unsatisfactory and that you are having regrets about having bought that make of vehicle. State that you want your vehicle fixed or the problem taken care of -- don't make unreasonable demands.

Most automakers will respond positively to inquiries of this kind, and the problem should be addressed in short order.

If this doesn't work, you may have to pursue other avenues, including getting in touch with the appropriate state bureau of consumer/regulatory affairs or hiring a lawyer to compose a suitably serious letter threatening to take the matter to court.

But your car troubles usually can be dealt with by simple, effective communication.

Eric Peters is an automotive columnist who has covered the auto industry since 1992. His work has appeared in the Wall Street Journal, Detroit Free Press and Detroit News, among other publications. E-mail him at Epeters952@aol.com.

http://www.armytimes.com/offduty/aut...DEALERSERVICE/

**Scorp** · 01-17-2012, 03:28 PM

This is a very common answer when it comes to warranty work. "Sorry our technician Couldn't replicate the problem when he looked at it."

Kerberos · 01-17-2012, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Scorp

This is a very common answer when it comes to warranty work. "Sorry our technician Couldn't replicate the problem when he looked at it."

You would think that anymore most Dealership repair centers would WANT all the business they can muster. Most get a fair warranty fee for their services.

I have dealt with Henderson Chevrolet here in Henderson, NV a few times on the wifes trailblazer and they fixed it...sent in my warranty claim and all I had to pay was $75 total for OVER $1500 in repairs.

I have nothing but good to say.

If petegz28 is having this kind of problem do what I have done before. GO STRAIT to the Service manager and have him take 5 minutes to go with you for a drive. You know what you are hearing so take him along and make sure he hears it too. I have done this in the past with my Ford Sportrac and they found the issue after I encouraged the Service manager to take a ride.

Kerberos · 01-17-2012, 03:29 PM

Whatever happened to Dale Mercer? I would think he would have .02 to put in on this?

Chief Roundup · 01-17-2012, 03:30 PM

Warranty work pays the least in a shop. So when you have warranty work done you get the rookie green horns working on your new car. Of course they don't know shit.

Dayze · 01-17-2012, 03:32 PM

i had a similar issue with my Wife's Beetle. Less than a year old and had a bad wheel bearing. She took it in 4 seperate times and they never 'replicated' the noise. BS.

So I drove down there with the Car and aske for the shop supervisor. I was polite etc, but direct. He said they'd take a look at it, and I politely said "well, to be honest, I'd like to take your for a drive so I'm sure you're hearing exactly what I'm talking about etc, if you don't mind". I made the shop supervisor drive with me until he heard the noise...which, ironically enough, was a soon as the car was moving down the road (obviously) at more than 10mph.

Had it in the shop that very day, and fixed under warranty. He was cool with me, and I was cool with him. Got the problem fixed.

Keep after them.

blaise · 01-17-2012, 03:37 PM

I would talk to him first and if you don't get a satisfactory answer go to the service manager. You could also go to the salesman. Not that they have any authority over the service department, but sometimes they can annoy the service guy enough that he'll do something about it.

**Gonzo** · 01-17-2012, 03:42 PM

Service writers can be as bad as used car salesmen. They work on commission too and if their techs are working on warranty vehicles, they're not making money.
That being said, you're physically going to have to go down there and replicate the prob lem with the service writer or manager. This sounds a helluva lot like CV joints to me.
Sauto? Your thoughts?
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jjjayb · 01-17-2012, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Gonzo

Service writers can be as bad as used car salesmen. They work on commission too and if their techs are working on warranty vehicles, they're not making money.
That being said, you're physically going to have to go down there and replicate the prob lem with the service writer or manager. This sounds a helluva lot like CV joints to me.
Sauto? Your thoughts?
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Good thing not all of us Car salesman are paid on commision. ;-)

**petegz28** · 01-17-2012, 05:12 PM

thankls for the feedback. I went in, guy was kissing my ass. Had him take me in another car so he could hear the difference. He could hear one but he said he didn't think it was that much of one. I talked to the Manager and told him I think something is wrong. He assured me they went over everything more than once. I told him about the ticking noise with the cotter pin they said they couldn't find until I told them to look again.

Anyhow, I got a free air filter and car wash out of the gig and it has been noted in detail in my record should the problem get worse.

Honestly and this may be my imagination, but the noise didn't seem as bad after they had it for two days though they swear they saw nothing and did nothing.

01-17-2012, 03:19 PM	Topic Starter
petegz28 Supporter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Olathe, Ks Casino cash: $-1045873	Advice wanted on dealing with Auto-Dealer Service Dept So I bough ta new Maxima back in June. Ever since I've had the car I have heard a ticking that goes with the wheels. You can really hear it in a garage because of the echo and such. So, I mention it to the dealer one day when I was getting the oil changed. He said they heard it but wanted me to bring it back when the suspension guy was working. Ok, fair enough. Time goes by, and I start noticing the CVT (Transmission) is a little louder than it had been. So I call the dealer and take it in yesterday and told them about what I think is the transmission noise as well as the ticking. All day goes by and I hear nothing. I call them this morning and they said they saw nothing wrong and couldn't hear the ticking that they claimed they could hear before. I said bullshit. This was at 10:00am this morning. So they said they would look again, 2:30 rolls around and I hear nothing so I call and ask them what's going on so I can make arrangments to get the car if I need too. The guys says he hadn't heard anything and he would go talk to the foreman and call me back. I told him I was getting ready to leave work in about an hour. 45 minutes later I still haven't heard anything back one way or the other and now my patience is starting to get a little thin. Would you be talking to the Manager or play the wait and see?
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01-17-2012, 03:21 PM	#2
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01-17-2012, 03:28 PM	#7
Scorp Whiskey Tango Foxtrot OVER! Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hell Casino cash: $6629000	This is a very common answer when it comes to warranty work. "Sorry our technician Couldn't replicate the problem when he looked at it." __________________
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01-17-2012, 03:30 PM	#10
Chief Roundup Admitted Planet Junky Join Date: Oct 2000 Casino cash: $-1528373	Warranty work pays the least in a shop. So when you have warranty work done you get the rookie green horns working on your new car. Of course they don't know shit. __________________ Fanaticism is nowhere. There is no tenderness or humanity in fanaticism.
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01-17-2012, 03:32 PM	#11
Dayze Resident Glue Sniffer Join Date: Nov 2003 Casino cash: $1799358	i had a similar issue with my Wife's Beetle. Less than a year old and had a bad wheel bearing. She took it in 4 seperate times and they never 'replicated' the noise. BS. So I drove down there with the Car and aske for the shop supervisor. I was polite etc, but direct. He said they'd take a look at it, and I politely said "well, to be honest, I'd like to take your for a drive so I'm sure you're hearing exactly what I'm talking about etc, if you don't mind". I made the shop supervisor drive with me until he heard the noise...which, ironically enough, was a soon as the car was moving down the road (obviously) at more than 10mph. Had it in the shop that very day, and fixed under warranty. He was cool with me, and I was cool with him. Got the problem fixed. Keep after them.
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01-17-2012, 03:37 PM	#12
blaise In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Plano, TX Casino cash: $9989900	I would talk to him first and if you don't get a satisfactory answer go to the service manager. You could also go to the salesman. Not that they have any authority over the service department, but sometimes they can annoy the service guy enough that he'll do something about it.
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01-17-2012, 03:42 PM	#13
Gonzo Stuff & Things Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The Yukon Casino cash: $10126924	Service writers can be as bad as used car salesmen. They work on commission too and if their techs are working on warranty vehicles, they're not making money. That being said, you're physically going to have to go down there and replicate the prob lem with the service writer or manager. This sounds a helluva lot like CV joints to me. Sauto? Your thoughts? Posted via Mobile Device
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01-17-2012, 05:12 PM	#15
petegz28 Supporter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Olathe, Ks Casino cash: $-1045873	thankls for the feedback. I went in, guy was kissing my ass. Had him take me in another car so he could hear the difference. He could hear one but he said he didn't think it was that much of one. I talked to the Manager and told him I think something is wrong. He assured me they went over everything more than once. I told him about the ticking noise with the cotter pin they said they couldn't find until I told them to look again. Anyhow, I got a free air filter and car wash out of the gig and it has been noted in detail in my record should the problem get worse. Honestly and this may be my imagination, but the noise didn't seem as bad after they had it for two days though they swear they saw nothing and did nothing.
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