Chiefs Daboll Didn't Make Adjustments

Chiefnj2 · 09-10-2012, 09:16 AM

I've seen a lot of people making that claim this morning, but I don't see any evidence to support the claim.

Drive 1: KC got the ball to start the 2nd half and moved it from their 20 to Atlanta's 22 before a missed FG. They moved the ball and had a chance to put points on the board.

Drive 2: Albert whiff and Cassel sack fumble. No real chance to get a drive going before the turnover.

Drive 3: KC converts a 3rd and 14. Tipped ball by Moeaki leads to an INT. Not Dabolls fault.

Drive 4: Cassel's horrible INT on 3rd and 1. Probably should have been a run. Perhaps poor playcalling by Daboll.

Drive 5: KC starts at their own 10 and then has a 15 yard offensive facemask penalty that makes it 2nd an 22.

Drive 6: TD.

IMHO, Daboll engineered 2 decent drives (even if 1 was "garbage time"). 3 drives ended prematurely with turnovers before you could tell if Daboll made adjustments or not, and 1 drive just had a bad penalty and field position.

htismaqe · 09-10-2012, 09:18 AM

Who said Daboll didn't adjust?

Hell, why did he NEED to adjust?

That was the best half of offensive football since the day Pioli arrived FFS...

LiL stumppy · 09-10-2012, 09:19 AM

Why would he? Why adjust something thats working? We lost because we couldnt cover their wr's. And cassel did his usual thing in the second. Simple.

lcarus · 09-10-2012, 09:21 AM

I'm not blaming the offense at all for this loss. When you can't stop the opponent defensively ONE TIME all day, that's clearly the problem. I'm just gonna sum that up to injuries and Hali's suspension. That's really the only explanation for how our defense could go to utter shit when last year they were really good.

Black Bob · 09-10-2012, 09:24 AM

The first drive in the second half is rehearsed and game planned in practice so you can't count that one.

It has nothing to do with Cassel's play or the passing plays imo. It has to do with how Nolan started stopping the run. He stopped it cold in the second half. Charles really couldn't get outside like he did in the first half.

LiL stumppy · 09-10-2012, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackBob

The first drive in the second half is rehearsed and game planned in practice so you can't count that one.

It has nothing to do with Cassel's play or the passing plays imo. It has to do with how Nolan started stopping the run. He stopped it cold in the second half. Charles really couldn't get outside like he did in the first half.

This is correct, and when they stop the run you need a qb who can put the team on his shoulders, and win. And we saw what casshole did when he has to do that.

mr. tegu · 09-10-2012, 09:30 AM

I was frustrated by them continually trying to run the ball right up the middle in the second half. It stopped working but they kept doing it and putting the offense in second/third and longs.

Mr. Laz · 09-10-2012, 09:30 AM

the fact they people are talking about the offense just shows how gawd dam stupid it's become around here.

Defense allowed a score ON EVERY POSSESSION until kneel down time with 4 minutes left. EVERY DAM POSSESSION.

Idiots

Hog's Gone Fishin · 09-10-2012, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Who said Daboll didn't adjust?

Hell, why did he NEED to adjust?

That was the best half of offensive football since the day Pioli arrived FFS...

Because the Falcons make defensive adjustments. They came out to stop the run. We should have countered.

Hog's Gone Fishin · 09-10-2012, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz

the fact they people are talking about the offense just shows how gawd dam stupid it's become around here.

Defense allowed a score ON EVERY POSSESSION until kneel down time with 4 minutes left. EVERY DAM POSSESSION.

Idiots

So did Atlantas Defense until they made adjustments at half time.

**Rain Man** · 09-10-2012, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz

the fact they people are talking about the offense just shows how gawd dam stupid it's become around here.

Defense allowed a score ON EVERY POSSESSION until kneel down time with 4 minutes left. EVERY DAM POSSESSION.

Idiots

That is indeed the problem.

The other problem is that the kick return unit never really gives the offense any advantage. Our kick and punt return units have been terrible for a couple of years now, and it's not the returner's fault. It's terrible blocking.

Ace Gunner · 09-10-2012, 09:42 AM

Seems to me the middle of that OL got pummeled every play after the INT/TD. Winston/Albert played okay, but that interior OL sucks balls. They didn't block worth shit.

Is that the scheme? No.

Molitoth · 09-10-2012, 09:55 AM

Daboll did a fantastic job imo. There were a couple of times that I could easily predict the playcall, but NOTHING like the past couple years.

KCrockaholic · 09-10-2012, 09:58 AM

One thing I noticed is we run a lot of pulling guards in our 3 wide formation. It works with Charles fairly well. But I didn't see nearly as many 2 TE sets as I was hoping for. We ran 3 wide almost the whole game.

Black Bob · 09-10-2012, 10:00 AM

Eachus at FB was really really bad. It was a big mistake keeping him if that's the role they have planned for him. He should be on the practice squad or just gone all together imo. It's great that he played hard but he got his ass kicked out there. We let Gordon go so we could keep Eachus? Really?

09-10-2012, 09:16 AM
Chiefnj2 In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Casino cash: $6674388	Daboll Didn't Make Adjustments I've seen a lot of people making that claim this morning, but I don't see any evidence to support the claim. Drive 1: KC got the ball to start the 2nd half and moved it from their 20 to Atlanta's 22 before a missed FG. They moved the ball and had a chance to put points on the board. Drive 2: Albert whiff and Cassel sack fumble. No real chance to get a drive going before the turnover. Drive 3: KC converts a 3rd and 14. Tipped ball by Moeaki leads to an INT. Not Dabolls fault. Drive 4: Cassel's horrible INT on 3rd and 1. Probably should have been a run. Perhaps poor playcalling by Daboll. Drive 5: KC starts at their own 10 and then has a 15 yard offensive facemask penalty that makes it 2nd an 22. Drive 6: TD. IMHO, Daboll engineered 2 decent drives (even if 1 was "garbage time"). 3 drives ended prematurely with turnovers before you could tell if Daboll made adjustments or not, and 1 drive just had a bad penalty and field position.
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09-10-2012, 09:18 AM	#2
htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $8179900	Who said Daboll didn't adjust? Hell, why did he NEED to adjust? That was the best half of offensive football since the day Pioli arrived FFS...
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09-10-2012, 09:19 AM	#3
LiL stumppy 62-21 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: St. Louis, MO Casino cash: $9913684	Why would he? Why adjust something thats working? We lost because we couldnt cover their wr's. And cassel did his usual thing in the second. Simple. __________________ I'm just cakn partna
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09-10-2012, 09:21 AM	#4
lcarus Everybody Lies. Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: 22 Acacia Avenue Casino cash: $-1729887	I'm not blaming the offense at all for this loss. When you can't stop the opponent defensively ONE TIME all day, that's clearly the problem. I'm just gonna sum that up to injuries and Hali's suspension. That's really the only explanation for how our defense could go to utter shit when last year they were really good.
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09-10-2012, 09:24 AM	#5
Black Bob Veteran Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Mohawk Town Casino cash: $10004900	The first drive in the second half is rehearsed and game planned in practice so you can't count that one. It has nothing to do with Cassel's play or the passing plays imo. It has to do with how Nolan started stopping the run. He stopped it cold in the second half. Charles really couldn't get outside like he did in the first half.
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09-10-2012, 09:30 AM	#7
mr. tegu Forever Royal Join Date: Mar 2012 Casino cash: $-1678700	I was frustrated by them continually trying to run the ball right up the middle in the second half. It stopped working but they kept doing it and putting the offense in second/third and longs.
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09-10-2012, 09:30 AM	#8
Mr. Laz Don't Tease Me Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: KS Casino cash: $11047037	the fact they people are talking about the offense just shows how gawd dam stupid it's become around here. Defense allowed a score ON EVERY POSSESSION until kneel down time with 4 minutes left. EVERY DAM POSSESSION. Idiots __________________
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09-10-2012, 09:42 AM	#12
Ace Gunner First Overall Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: kcmo Casino cash: $10007271	Seems to me the middle of that OL got pummeled every play after the INT/TD. Winston/Albert played okay, but that interior OL sucks balls. They didn't block worth shit. Is that the scheme? No. __________________ The Greatest
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09-10-2012, 09:55 AM	#13
Molitoth Mahomes Fanboi Join Date: Apr 2004 Casino cash: $254969	Daboll did a fantastic job imo. There were a couple of times that I could easily predict the playcall, but NOTHING like the past couple years.
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09-10-2012, 09:58 AM	#14
KCrockaholic Sarcasm Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Olathe Casino cash: $3462900	One thing I noticed is we run a lot of pulling guards in our 3 wide formation. It works with Charles fairly well. But I didn't see nearly as many 2 TE sets as I was hoping for. We ran 3 wide almost the whole game.
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09-10-2012, 10:00 AM	#15
Black Bob Veteran Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Mohawk Town Casino cash: $10004900	Eachus at FB was really really bad. It was a big mistake keeping him if that's the role they have planned for him. He should be on the practice squad or just gone all together imo. It's great that he played hard but he got his ass kicked out there. We let Gordon go so we could keep Eachus? Really?
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