Chiefs Which QBs could win a Super Bowl with this roster?

carcosa · 01-18-2017, 09:27 AM

First of all, technically this isn't another Alex thread. It's a literally anybody else thread.

With all the rumors surrounding Philip Rivers, I started to think about whether he'd be able to win a Super Bowl with this Chiefs roster. Rivers is a very good quarterback, but he's not a no-brainer elite QB like Brady or Rodgers. While the Chiefs clearly have plenty of deficiencies outside of QB (especially in the running game on both sides of the ball), certain quarterbacks can help cover for those deficiencies by being more than a competent game manager. I came to the conclusion that yes, Rivers could absolutely win a Super Bowl here.

Which made me wonder, which other current NFL starters could win a Super Bowl with this Chiefs roster?? Poll forthcoming.

ChiefsCountry · 01-18-2017, 09:30 AM

Brady
Rodgers
Big Ben
Wilson
Brees
Ryan
Luck
Cam
Rivers
Flacco
Eli

Carr, Mariotta, Winston are too young just yet.

**Snica** · 01-18-2017, 09:32 AM

To be honest, I'm not sure any QB could win a SB here. Lets Trade for Aaron Rodgers and find out.

Seriously though, with the history of this organization, do you really think we will ever see a superbowl victory here? If we ever get the right QB we will have the wrong coach. Shit, Vermiel had the highest scoring offense in the league, the right QB and ****ed the team over by ignoring the defense.

St. Patty's Fire · 01-18-2017, 09:34 AM

I was thinking the same thing regarding Rivers.

I'd say our chances of winning go up significantly if we replaced Smith with Rivers.

My list: Rodgers, Luck, Newton, Brady, Rape, Ryan, Rivers, Mascara boy, Brees, Wilson are all the ones where if you put them on this team we'd be odds on favorites. After that, Mariota, Winston, Eli, Precott, maybe Flacco.

Amnorix · 01-18-2017, 09:37 AM

My worry with Rivers is simple -- and I really do like him generally as a QB and person -- but he had some hella talented SD teams back when they had LT and GAtes and those guys, and I don't think he even went to a SB much less won one.

It does seem to me that the AFC was more talented overall back then, however.

carcosa · 01-18-2017, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Brady
Rodgers
Big Ben
Wilson
Brees
Ryan
Luck
Cam
Rivers
Flacco
Eli

Carr, Mariotta, Winston are too young just yet.

I think Carr could win one with us right now. Look at how well the Raiders did without an actual defense. Put him on this roster with a D that forces turnovers and prevents touchdowns, and all those close games Carr had to pull out this season turn into blowouts.

I'm not so sure about Flacco or Eli, even though they've won Super Bowls. They just feel like QBs who would never in a million years be able to win one in KC.

ChiefsCountry · 01-18-2017, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix

My worry with Rivers is simple -- and I really do like him generally as a QB and person -- but he had some hella talented SD teams back when they had LT and GAtes and those guys, and I don't think he even went to a SB much less won one.

It does seem to me that the AFC was more talented overall back then, however.

He lost to Brady twice and Big Ben once.

**ptlyon** · 01-18-2017, 09:40 AM

Obvious answer: Poe. Duh.

carcosa · 01-18-2017, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amnorix

My worry with Rivers is simple -- and I really do like him generally as a QB and person -- but he had some hella talented SD teams back when they had LT and GAtes and those guys, and I don't think he even went to a SB much less won one.

It does seem to me that the AFC was more talented overall back then, however.

This is fair, but considering how far the Chiefs have gotten with a mediocre QB, if you swap in a truly talented QB like Rivers, I think you're a genuine Super Bowl contender.

mcaj22 · 01-18-2017, 09:41 AM

Carr, Winston, Mariota are all yes. not even debatable

carcosa · 01-18-2017, 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ptlyon

Obvious answer: Poe. Duh.

HELL yeah

carcosa · 01-18-2017, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

Carr, Winston, Mariota are all yes. not even debatable

I think Carr is a yes, but I dunno if the other two are quite there YET. If we're talking about who could win a Super Bowl right now, stepping into THIS roster, Carr is the only sure contender IMVHO.

Chiefnj2 · 01-18-2017, 09:45 AM

None because Reid would screw it up.

carcosa · 01-18-2017, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

None because Reid would screw it up.

smh

**Baby Lee** · 01-18-2017, 09:46 AM

A good number of the list, because Dorsey built them the squad to be a complete team.

They're not good enough to drag dead weight like Osweiler, Fitzpatrick, Bortles or Kaepernick over the line, but ready to march with a competent teammate.

Much more important the squad enter the playoffs healthy with a good game plan, than any particular signal caller.

View Poll Results: Which QBs could win a Super Bowl with this Chiefs roster?
Carson Palmer	15	22.73%
Matt Ryan	53	80.30%
Joe Flacco	26	39.39%
Tyrod Taylor	6	9.09%
Cam Newton	37	56.06%
Jay Cutler	1	1.52%
Andy Dalton	19	28.79%
Robert Griffin III	0	0%
Dak Prescott	26	39.39%
Trevor Siemian	3	4.55%
Matthew Stafford	38	57.58%
Aaron Rodgers	62	93.94%
Brock Osweiler	0	0%
Andrew Luck	53	80.30%
Blake Bortles	2	3.03%
Alex Smith	8	12.12%
Jared Goff	2	3.03%
Ryan Tannehill	6	9.09%
Sam Bradford	6	9.09%
Tom Brady	63	95.45%
Drew Brees	58	87.88%
Eli Manning	34	51.52%
Ryan Fitzpatrick	1	1.52%
Derek Carr	45	68.18%
Carson Wentz	11	16.67%
Ben Roethlisberger	59	89.39%
Philip Rivers	48	72.73%
Colin Kaepernick	3	4.55%
Russell Wilson	49	74.24%
Jameis Winston	21	31.82%
Marcus Mariota	27	40.91%
Kirk Cousins	19	28.79%
Tony Romo	28	42.42%
Teddy Bridgewater	7	10.61%
No QB could win with this roster. It is the worst roster of all time.	0	0%
Other (plz specify in thread)	0	0%
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01-18-2017, 09:27 AM
carcosa Thank you Join Date: May 2014 Casino cash: $-616305	Which QBs could win a Super Bowl with this roster? First of all, technically this isn't another Alex thread. It's a literally anybody else thread. With all the rumors surrounding Philip Rivers, I started to think about whether he'd be able to win a Super Bowl with this Chiefs roster. Rivers is a very good quarterback, but he's not a no-brainer elite QB like Brady or Rodgers. While the Chiefs clearly have plenty of deficiencies outside of QB (especially in the running game on both sides of the ball), certain quarterbacks can help cover for those deficiencies by being more than a competent game manager. I came to the conclusion that yes, Rivers could absolutely win a Super Bowl here. Which made me wonder, which other current NFL starters could win a Super Bowl with this Chiefs roster?? Poll forthcoming.
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01-18-2017, 09:30 AM	#2
ChiefsCountry The Insider Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Lake of the Ozarks Casino cash: $-1371248	Brady Rodgers Big Ben Wilson Brees Ryan Luck Cam Rivers Flacco Eli Carr, Mariotta, Winston are too young just yet.
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01-18-2017, 09:32 AM	#3
Snica Supporter Join Date: Jun 2013 Casino cash: $-1210000	To be honest, I'm not sure any QB could win a SB here. Lets Trade for Aaron Rodgers and find out. Seriously though, with the history of this organization, do you really think we will ever see a superbowl victory here? If we ever get the right QB we will have the wrong coach. Shit, Vermiel had the highest scoring offense in the league, the right QB and ****ed the team over by ignoring the defense.
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01-18-2017, 09:34 AM	#4
St. Patty's Fire Same as the old boss Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: North NJ Casino cash: $1204900	I was thinking the same thing regarding Rivers. I'd say our chances of winning go up significantly if we replaced Smith with Rivers. My list: Rodgers, Luck, Newton, Brady, Rape, Ryan, Rivers, Mascara boy, Brees, Wilson are all the ones where if you put them on this team we'd be odds on favorites. After that, Mariota, Winston, Eli, Precott, maybe Flacco.
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01-18-2017, 09:37 AM	#5
Amnorix In BB I trust Join Date: May 2003 Location: Boston, Mass. Casino cash: $10029808	My worry with Rivers is simple -- and I really do like him generally as a QB and person -- but he had some hella talented SD teams back when they had LT and GAtes and those guys, and I don't think he even went to a SB much less won one. It does seem to me that the AFC was more talented overall back then, however. __________________ "I love signature blocks on the Internet. I get to put whatever the hell I want in quotes, pick a pretend author, and bang, it's like he really said it." George Washington
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01-18-2017, 09:46 AM	#15
Baby Lee Supporter Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $8028275	A good number of the list, because Dorsey built them the squad to be a complete team. They're not good enough to drag dead weight like Osweiler, Fitzpatrick, Bortles or Kaepernick over the line, but ready to march with a competent teammate. Much more important the squad enter the playoffs healthy with a good game plan, than any particular signal caller.
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