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Old 11-29-2004, 03:36 PM  
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Old 11-29-2004, 03:41 PM   #2
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Congrats, they finally found a winner with the Ipod.
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Old 11-29-2004, 03:46 PM   #3
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Did they finally get around to correcting that little problem w/ the Ipod batteries?
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Old 11-29-2004, 03:48 PM   #4
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Doesn't Bill Gates own about $150 mil in Apple stock?
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Old 11-29-2004, 03:50 PM   #5
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Did they finally get around to correcting that little problem w/ the Ipod batteries?
No idea. What was the problem?
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Old 11-29-2004, 03:50 PM   #6
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Doesn't Bill Gates own about $150 mil in Apple stock?
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Old 11-29-2004, 03:50 PM   #7
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Did they finally get around to correcting that little problem w/ the Ipod batteries?
I think the new 40 Gig have removable/changable batteries. Not completelly sure. I hate iPods. That battery thing was such a bitch move by Apple.
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Old 11-29-2004, 03:52 PM   #8
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No idea. What was the problem?
The batteries only last a year and half. And since they are polymer (sp?), or molded into the iPod itself, one cannot remove them. Owners would have to send them back to Apple and pay around $180 for a battery change.
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Old 11-29-2004, 03:55 PM   #9
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On August 7, 1997 the computer world was stunned by the news that Bill Gates had infused new life into Apple Computer Corporation by agreeing to a $150 million non-voting investment in the troubled company. A fascinating aspect of the story was the fact that Steve Jobs, one of the original co-founders of Apple had asked Gates for the favor. Jobs left Apple in 1985, and was recently brought back to help reorganize the company. The announcement was made at the Macworld trade show in Boston, amid boos from Apple loyalists who have been conditioned over the years to consider Microsoft's co-founder, Bill Gates, their enemy.

Bill Gates, who is the richest man in the world, is also the most powerful person in the world of computers. Steve Jobs is also an incredibly potent influence in this industry which affects all of us. Neither of them appear to have an interest in Christianity. Jobs, who has sought for spiritual enlightenment in India, set the price of his original computer, the Apple I, at the symbolic price of $666.66. Today Jobs juggles various hi-tech interests, including Apple, and his latest creation: Pixar Inc., the computer animation studio that produced the film "Toy Story." Together, Gates and Jobs are a force that bears watching. The Microsoft infusion of cash into Apple Computer is a typically brilliant strategy by Gates. Experts say that, technically, it thwarts Justice Department anti-trust action against Microsoft by preserving its the existence of its chief competitor, while, actually, buying a large measure of unofficial control in Apple. One of the agreements between Apple and Microsoft is to use Microsoft's Internet browser, giving them a considerable advantage over Netscape, their advancing competitor.
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Old 11-29-2004, 04:03 PM   #10
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Doesn't Bill Gates own about $150 mil in Apple stock?
That figure is a little low.
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Old 11-29-2004, 04:04 PM   #12
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Vlad - I think he sold the majority of it... IIRC.

Rausch - what Metrolike said: they sealed the units with batteries that have a short lifespan. They could not be replaced other than shipping back to Apple for an overpriced replacement by 'Apple techs'. Reminds me of the old 980 systems.... charging $150 for a gawddamn 3.5" floppy drive!!!!

Or, even farther back, when they put fuses on the mobo. Simple fuse that cost 20 cents at Radio Shack, they'd charge $200 to replace. Bastards.

Last time I dealt with Apple 'technical support' (I was a tech support guy back in the day) was in regards to Appletalk and TCP/IP.... I needed to know which protocol encapsulated the other for communications over an integrated network. I got bumped all the way up to their 'premeire technical engineering group'... they had no idea what protocol encapsulation meant.

Needless to say, I've been soured on Apple.

However I wouldn't turn down one of their new 64-bit multi-processor systems. I do CGI work.... Apples are great for graphics work. (of course, that would mean I'd have to get the Apple copies of all my software.... )
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Old 11-29-2004, 04:16 PM   #13
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If I'm correct (and I'm pretty sure I am), the latest iPod still ahve non-removable, non-replaceable batteries, but they are *supposed* to have a much longer life. Of course, no one has had the latest generation for long enough to tell for sure, but that's what they're telling us...
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Old 11-29-2004, 04:28 PM   #14
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He did up until a year ago.
Exactly...

This was addressed in one of the Apple Expo's by Jobs but for some reason I can't find any info on it.
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Exactly...

This was addressed in one of the Apple Expo's by Jobs but for some reason I can't find any info on it.
That whole thing was made WAY too big a deal of, anyway. Jobs bribed Gates into buying the stock (and into continuing to make Office for Mac) in exchange for Jobs not going back to court with Microsoft over trademark infringment. $150 million was small change to Apple, which was about an $11 Billion company at the time. And, of course, it was VERY small change to Gates and MS. The media painted it as if Gates swooped in and saved Apple from the brink of extinction, or something. If I had a penny for every time someone has said Apple was on their detah bed...
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